[josm-dev] Another 66 relations bite the dust
Richard Fairhurst
richard at systemeD.net
Mon May 10 13:12:06 BST 2010
Someone seems to have decided to answer the question about "how should
we tag the National Byway" by deleting it. :(
In http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4653538 , a vast number
of relations have been deleted - 66 or so. Among these are a bunch of
cycle routes - the National Byway (id 9327, previously with 893 relation
members), NCN route 74, the Caledonian Cycleway - plus some railway
routes and the usual NAPTaN gubbins. I restored the National Byway
before noticing the rest of them; now, I guess, it would be helpful to
rollback the rest of the changeset.
The user has done lots of really good edits so I'm 100% sure that this
isn't vandalism.
The created_by is JOSM 1.5 (3094 en). This roughly echoes:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/josm-dev/2010-March/004228.html
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/josm-dev/2010-April/004276.html
although, in this case, the relations have been deleted rather than
'blanked'. I think all of the relations in question passed through
As per the first cited message, I don't want to get into an editor
argument here, but I do know from bitter experience that if Potlatch let
you do this without realising, there would have been people screaming
for my head for months now.
Deleting a relation with 900ish members is almost always going to be an
error. Obviously we don't yet know what's happened here, but I think we
can safely assume that the user wasn't presented with a dialogue reading
"Are you really really sure you want to delete an entire chuffing cycle
route along 900 roads?" and a button "HELL YES!".
Could I entreat the JOSM developers to put some serious effort into
identifying and fixing this at the very earliest opportunity?
cheers
Richard
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