[josm-dev] JOSM donations?

Thu Aug 11 20:09:48 BST 2011

JOSM is an excellent piece of software, and is difficult to improve.

However, as a simple user only I am sometimes surprised too by changes(improvements) in functions
and additions that I was not prepared to cope with at that particular moment.

If you found out that just a few edits could be made before taking off
to ..... (fill-in) and it don't work out, a call for help does not
necessary help you out in time to do what you wanted.

I know and understand that keeping track of all changes in a "word of the day"
fashion is too much to ask from anyone, so we all have to live
with a piece of software that evaluates faster then we can edit.

But, if you happen to modify any function that you (or anyone else writing
for this marvelous editor) may expect that may impact a lot of peoples
edit life, a short drop-note would make many happy.

Alternately (but that is asking for a lot of programming effort), a
context related help function, giving access to the history
of a specific function (with history) would be a great enhancement. 
But that should not be considered a request from my side, being
a simple leecher ;<)

Josm has a short cycle life, and maybe it's time
to make that happen at a slower pace, so documentation will have less
lag with the editor.

Gert

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Dirk Stöcker [mailto:openstreetmap at dstoecker.de] 
Verzonden: woensdag 3 augustus 2011 10:41
Aan: josm-dev at openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [josm-dev] JOSM donations?

On Tue, 2 Aug 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote:

> Not related to this thread on the German forum by any chance?
>
> http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=13269

Yes.

> I hope you draw some consolation from the fact that a large number of people 
> actually tried to explain things to this guy.

I know that most people aren't like this, but sometimes a few get to your 
nerves. It is not like he was not polite, but writing lengthy explaining 
mails and then receiving total ignorance at the other side is hard for me 
(I have more problems with ignorance than I have with flames and harsh 
language).

The problem is, that after each change and each release I have to handle 
people of the "you did silly changes, revert it" and especially for minor 
things (In this case he simple needs to enter a valid URL to point to his 
file instead of uploading them to the wiki as attachement).

Which does not mean such discussion are bad in any case. Some discussions 
in the past lead to much better implementations then the original design 
was. But as always this needs the will to understand both views and try to 
find a solution which are improvement for both sides involved.

>>  Sometimes I'm very discouraged to care for JOSM and I'm not sure if it is
>>  really worth the effort anymore. Each and every time something new is
>>  introduced or something is changed you get unacceptable comments and
>>  flames. Sometimes this can get too much even for me.
>
> In the thread I mentioned above, someone cautioned the complainant to be 
> polite when writing to you because you were "more important than 50 mappers".

The mass of silently people who actually appreciate my work and that of 
our contributors are the only reason why I do it. Otherwise I would have 
dropped somewhere near release 700 when all this fuss started with the 
virtual nodes implementation.

Ciao
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