[josm-dev] Fwd: Filter Google from Imagery?

[Stefan]

What about a big red must-read dialog box when using google? Nannying may be bad, but providing information isn't.

Judging by the amount of “I've just used google maps to ..." diary posts on osm.org this *will* lead to trouble otherwise.



"Frederik Ramm" <frederik at remote.org> schrieb:

>JOSM devs,
>
>    with the templated TMS layer it is now trivial to display Google
>aerial imagery or Google maps as a background in JOSM. Doing so might
>violate Google's terms of use already (I am unsure but I guess that
>using their tiles without a Google logo is not OK); but of course using
>their data for anything to do with OSM is a big No-No.
>
>I wonder if we should thus build a blacklist into the Imagery layer so
>that it will refuse to use certain tile or WMS URLs. Potlatch already
>does this.
>
>This would of course be "nannying" our users, something I've always
>been
>against; our users should be able to make these decisions for
>themselves. On the other hand, where in the past it would at least have
>required some hacking and knowledge to use Google, it is now a simple
>entry in the imagery configuration and I fear that this makes it too
>easy (a novice could read this "cool tip" somewhere and apply it
>unthinkingly).
>
>If we ban Google backgrounds, of course anyone with a little Java skill
>(or a little web server redirection magic) could circumvent this, but
>at
>least if somebody compiles their own, modified JOSM version they cannot
>say that they didn't know.
>
>Another option that we could think about is setting certain tags on the
>uploaded changeset that indicate what background layers were used (e.g.
>source:tile-url=blah.google.com/blah/blah). We could inform users of
>our
>doing so but disallow removal of these tags, which would hopefully make
>sure they only use legal stuff. But that would run the risk of invading
>users' privacy (e.g. they could be using a tile source at the office
>intranet, thus betraying that they were mapping during working
>hours...). And of course this, too, could be circumvented.
>
>Opinions on the whole thing? Problem is, if it is *too* easy to load
>Google backgrounds, we (as a project) could be accused of knowingly
>inviting tracing from Google.
>
>Bye
>Frederik
>
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