[josm-dev] Fwd: Filter Google from Imagery?

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

On 01/28/11 09:57, Matthias Meißer wrote:
> But as said by others this is just wrong. Yes we add a new barrier but
> we all know that they could be bypassed by anyone with low skills.

I beg to differ. This is exactly the point of this barrier - you should 
not be able to use Google if you have "low skills". You should need to 
employ a certain amount of tweaking to use Google - so that you cannot 
reasonably claim "what? Google isn't allowed? I didn't know...".

This was the case before we had the templated TMS layers; it was always 
possible to use Google but you had to run your own Google-to-WMS adapter 
(googlewms.jar) or employ other tricks. And that was ok for me; by going 
that extra mile the user basically proved that he really wanted to do 
that even though we don't offer it directly.

But the introduction of templated TMS layers has greatly *lowered* that 
barrier. All I have done is raise the barrier back to where it was.

> For me the question is, if there is a special reason for your suggestion?
> Were so much Googled OSM data found in the past weeks?
> As said, to me the problem seems to decrease cause of Bing Maps.

Then how do you explain what Richard wrote, that within weeks of 
Potlatch 2 being released - which shows Bing images by default - people 
were happily using it to trace from Google, and bragging about it?

Bye
Frederik