[josm-dev] JOSM Applet

Dirk Stöcker openstreetmap at dstoecker.de
Fri Mar 4 07:51:31 GMT 2011


On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote:

> Of course; as you say, it's the same with Potlatch. What I wanted to say is 
> if you have an "official" editor embedded at osm.org it needs to pass a 
> different test than "some editor you downloaded somewhere" (and for osm.org 
> the josm.osm.de site is just "somewhere"). Once furnished with user 
> credentials or the proper OAuth key, an application could do a lot of stupid 
> things. So at least if I were running osm.org, I would not simply install a 
> .jar file there when someone tells me to - just the same as with Potlatch.

Actually from the users side I need to trust the software I use, so when I 
use JOSM, I need to trust it.

> We need a working developer version but not a working user-facing version; 
> not necessarily anyway. If we can have it without pain, why not. Potlatch has 
> both - an instance at api06.dev.openstreetmap org connected to a test 
> instance of the database, and one at geowiki.org connected to the main 
> database. Meanwhile, lots of people have also added Potlatch2 hosting to 
> their web sites (e.g. openpistemap, wanderreitkarte, MapQuest) so you can run 
> a - sometimes customised - P2 instance directly from their sites.

For potlatch a developer version may be necessary. For JOSM a developer 
applet is useless, as no developer will use it. JOSM is a standalone 
application which has a applet feature. The past shows us, that the devs 
don't use the applet. So either we have a user applet under our control or 
we have no applet again.

When other sites already host Potlatch, then where is the big difference 
to JOSM? Either you need to login on the relevant site or you need to 
login to OSM. This is the same for JOSM applet.

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