[josm-dev] Validator

Pierre Béland infosbelas-gps at yahoo.fr
Wed Jul 11 18:17:50 BST 2012


Frederik

I agree entirely with you. Working with JOSM editor, recently, I was cutting and replacing part of coastlines.  I wanted to be sure to do it right and avoid eventual rendering problems.  I was also saving often. Every time I had to go through a list of verifications not knowing if my edit was adding anything to the list.  


This over verification may become counterproductive since contributors may have the reaction to always ignore validation messages.

 
Pierre 



----- Mail original -----
> De : Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>
> À : "josm-dev at openstreetmap.org" <josm-dev at openstreetmap.org>
> Cc : 
> Envoyé le : Mercredi 11 juillet 2012 11h48
> Objet : [josm-dev] Validator
> 
> Hi,
> 
>    there has been a sort-of-complaint about the Validator on talk-us. Kevin 
> Kenny wrote,
> 
>>  The data checks in JOSM and Potlatch2 are fine in that they all
>>  indeed highlight potential problems. But the sum total of them
>>  is just overwhelming. Right now, it feels as if I need to rectify
>>  every problem in any object that I've downloaded, to silence
>>  all the complaints from the tools. They seem to lack even the
>>  idea of "forward motion" - this part of the map isn't 
> perfect,
>>  but at least it's better than what was there before. Instead,
>>  the UI at default settings appears (to a novice) to insist on
>>  perfection.
> 
> I've been in the same situation - work on something, upload, and see tons of 
> errors for which I am not the least responsible and which I cannot (or don't 
> have the patience to) fix now.
> 
> As an experienced mapper, I just ignore them of course. But a newbie might 
> really find them intimidating, and choose to discard his edit in fear of 
> retribution.
> 
> Do you think it would be possible to run the validator after data has been 
> downloaded and record the list of problems, and then when someone uploads, only 
> check for *newly added* problems instead of everything?
> 
> Of course the validator would still, on request, be able to check everything, 
> but the automatic "hey, are you sure you want to upload this" check 
> could be reduced to those problems this mapper is really responsible for, rather 
> than listing everything that was wrong even before this mapper touched it.
> 
> Bye
> Frederik
> 
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