[Legal-general] Fwd: FW: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data Hosting For OSM PD?

[Sunburned Surveyor]

I'll get back to them today to let them know we are interested.

Landon

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:59 AM, Kari Pihkala <kari.pihkala at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds interesting. We could use their server for the file structure that
> you proposed. We haven't really decided how we are going to implement/host
> the PD map database.
>
> Of course, they can use our data for whatever they want.
>
> - Kari
>
> 2008/11/7 Sunburned Surveyor <sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com>
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>> Below is my response to a message that was sent in reply to my posting
>> an inquiry about the OSGeo hosting our PD repository. It wasn't
>> exactly what I was expecting, but it may be a promising lead. It
>> sounds like this non-profit would be interested in helping us set up
>> our infrastructure.
>>
>> I know we would need more details about Bob's organization before we
>> made a decision. I wanted to send this message here so you guys can
>> chew it over. I don't want to make this type of decision all on my
>> own.
>>
>> Richard, Kari, Joseph...What are your thoughts?
>>
>> Landon
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> You wrote: " While we're interested in any type of publicly available
>> data, we're particularly interested in any datasets that would apply to
>> emergency management or situational awareness."
>>
>> I would think that a street map would be very applicable for emergency
>> management, at least for things like evacuation planning and emergency
>> response.
>>
>> You wrote: "I'm part of a non-profit recently put together to try to
>> help promote this same sort of data sharing, we want to take it a bit
>> further than you describe though, by allowing the option of setting up
>> data feeds for WMS/WFS services.  These resulting services would be
>> intended as seamless coverages and that are classified by type and not
>> necessarily by data owner."
>>
>> I have to be careful about this. We decided not to set up a complete
>> replication of the OSM server, because we don't want to create a fork.
>> We're just looking for a pool that would allow us to collaborate on our
>> public domain mapping efforts.
>>
>> However...Since our data would be in the public domain, your non-profit
>> could easily vacuum our repository to create a WMS. That wouldn't be a
>> problem at all. In fact, this type of use case is why our group wants to
>> release the data PD in the first place.
>>
>>
>> If you think our small group could work out a hosting arrangement with
>> your non-profit given our restriction against creating a web map that
>> would essentially compete with/fork OSM, please let me know.
>>
>> Landon
>>
>>
>> Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268
>> Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bob Basques [mailto:Bob.Basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us]
>> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:16 AM
>> To: Landon Blake; discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data Hosting For OSM PD?
>>
>> Landon,
>>
>> I'm part of a non-profit recently put together to try to help promote
>> this same sort of data sharing, we want to take it a bit further than
>> you describe though, by allowing the option of setting up data feeds for
>> WMS/WFS services.  These resulting services would be intended as
>> seamless coverages and that are classified by type and not necessarily
>> by data owner.
>>
>> The general idea is to set up services with an eye towards dissolving
>> political boundaries while still allowing the data custodians to manage
>> their particular chunk of the data.  We've also put quite a lot of work
>> into the data organizational aspects as well as authentication services
>> for sensitive data.  We also applied some effort to providing a measure
>> of metadata related to the publication process.
>>
>> Our intent is to provide technical and infrastructure services that
>> allow for a very easy and usable publication process for anyone that
>> wants to share their (spatially referenced) public domain data.
>>
>> While we're interested in any type of publicly available data, we're
>> particularly interested in any datasets that would apply to emergency
>> management or situational awareness.
>>
>> If interested, I'm available offline to talk further, just email me
>> directly.
>>
>> bobb
>>
>>
>> >>> "Landon Blake" <lblake at ksninc.com> 11/07/08 12:12 PM >>>
>> I've been working with a few of the folks from the Open Street Map. We
>> are a group within the OSM community that is very interested in setting
>> up a repository or pool to host the map data we contribute in a separate
>> space, before it is uploaded to OSM. We'd like to do this so we can
>> collaborate on and release our data in the public domain. This avoids a
>> lot of the licensing problems and challenges that OSM is currently
>> struggling with.
>>
>>
>>
>> We've got a tentative folder structure nailed down, at least for the
>> time being.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd like to know if there would be any interest at the OSGeo in
>> providing some web server space for our repository. We don't need
>> anything fancy. No database, no scripting, no special software. We just
>> need a place to put folders and files.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd be happy to discuss the proposed repository structure in more detail
>> if the OSGeo was interested.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can start the repository with some space on my own site, but I think I
>> will quickly become overwhelmed by the data and bandwidth requirements.
>> If the OSGeo isn't interested our group can look into getting support
>> from a University or other organization.
>>
>>
>>
>> At any rate, I thought this might be a good opportunity for the OSGeo to
>> get involved in the free data side of the FOSS GIS equation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Landon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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