[OSM-legal-talk] License for Press, PR & marketing WAS [OSM-talk] OSM layer into Adobe Illustrator?

[rob at robmyers.org]

Quoting David Groom <reviews at pacific-rim.net>:

> In the meantime valuable opportunities for publicising OSM are being lost
> because of the license confusion.

Publicizing is no problem.

Any competent media organization understands the law. They can review, 
report or
incidentally include OSM imagery as they would any other image.

> Can we now agree something along the lines that any recognised press
> organisation can use OSM data , and anything produced from OSM data, and
> that such use does not create a derived work, and as long as OSM is credited
> as a source for the data that is OK.

Use is not publicity.

> To take an example, lets say there was an explosion in Baghdad, ITV might
> want to use an OSM map and draw on the location of the explosion and any
> other relevant things they wanted to illustrate.  Are we really wanting to
> say they couldn't do this, unless they then made that map available
> themselves under a CC-BY-SA license?

Yes.

Imagine how useful the conflict map would be to other users. If the data comes
from US government sources it is public domain anyway, and combining it with
BY-SA OSM data is neither a problem nor something that should be allowed to
result in a proprietary work.

> Because as someone said the other day,
> all they will do is go out and buy a map, they are not short of money, just
> time, and the harder we make it for them to use our maps the less likely it
> will be they use them.

Then nothing is lost.

If someone won't give to the project, them not taking from the project 
is not a
loss.

> I know the above would need a bit of refinement so say Reuters could not
> take OSM data and produce a Reuters map of the world, and then resell it,
> etc, but it might help to actually get OSM data used a bit, and hence help
> with publicity for  the OSM project.
>
> At present it seems very unlikely that ITV (one of the two main terrestrial
> TV channels in the UK) will now use any OSM data.

I did some work with a friend from Channel 4 new media last year and they
(C4)seemed to get the idea of how CC licenses work no problem. If ITV 
don't get
it, another channel will.

- Rob.