[OSM-legal-talk] The big license debate
Frederik Ramm
frederik at remote.org
Wed Feb 28 22:08:36 GMT 2007
Hi,
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote:
> "OpenStreetMap is a project aimed squarely at creating and providing
> free geographic data such as street maps to anyone who wants them. The
> project was started because most maps you think of as free actually have
> legal or technical restrictions on their use, holding back people from
> using them in creative, productive or unexpected ways."
I think this sounds very good. At closer inspection, it promises
nothing, nada, zilch. But neither do preambles of legal text, they just
say something about the "spirit" in which it was created.
I'm all for free data to be used creatively.
> To start the debate: I believe that the aims are valid. I believe that
> we need a license that lets people download the data, make maps from it,
> and be able to do what they please with those maps.
Yup. I'll try to outline my own hopes & expectations.
In the long run, I hope that OpenStreetMap will become OpenWorldMap, a
(probably distributed) one-stop self-service system for geodata of any
kind, where everybody can participate and everybody can use the data for
any purpose. I firmly believe that data about our planet should be free
and available to anybody; it isn't today, and I hope OSM will rectify that.
I also hope that users, especially big commercial users who have the
resources to make major improvements, will contribute stuff back. I am
however a bit skeptical about how this can be done. Especially, I expect
that by that time the project will have grown a lot of administrative
overhead, where, say, any change in the data model would break a hundred
interfaces and thus, if ever, needs to be planned two years in advance
and so on; so that an entity using our data for a specific purpose that
is not properly covered by our data model will have to convert data into
their systems, and not be able to contribute it back without first
convincing a dozen administrative OSM bodies that changes are required,
and so on.
Furthermore, I want this to happen freely, not forcedly, and I believe
that the large community behind OSM will make it very attractive for
users of our data to actually use our current data, instead of something
they siphon off and from then on have to care for themselves.
But if someone really wants to take our data, make changes, and seal it
off for restricted use, then so be it. I am willing to accept that; it
is the price I'd pay for maximum openness, and for avoiding legal troubles.
I would like to avoid any anti-commerce sentiments by the OSM project.
Commerce is what makes our world go round, and even people using our
data commercially to make profits and not giving anything back will
further our goals, if only by making us more popular. I see a possible
parallel with Linux here; commercial entities adapting Linux were rare
in the beginning, and those who used it were quiet about it, for fear of
being laughed at. Meanwhile using Linux is en vogue. I could see
commercial entities using our data, at first experimentally, later
creating products from it, but not yet mature enough to make a public
commitment to OSM. However, after a few years, they might indeed come
out and publicly involve themselves in OSM.
I would also like to avoid putting up tons of rules just to make people
feel bad, or feel like they're jumping through loopholes or "getting
away with something" which depends on a complicated interpretation of
some legal text (e.g. the interpretation of words like "suitable",
"applicable" or "practical"). It is bad enough to have that feeling when
I fill out my tax forms every year. Whatever license we chose has to be
very clear to both users and contributors, with a well-defined process
of deciding on grey area cases (as suggested by Laurence). Nobody should
feel restricted in his creativity by a latent "don't know if this is
really allowed" (and this is a big killer of creativity).
I would also like to avoid putting up rules that I cannot (or don't want
to) enforce; that makes the whole license ring hollow.
I would also like to avoid being unfair in that I am more or less forced
to let large companies get away with (at least moral) violations of the
rules I have thought out - because they can afford a lot of lawyers and
engineers to construct something that is legally and technically not in
breach of my rules - while I put smaller companies or individuals at a
disadvantage by providing anyone with the legal fodder to sue them for
breach of my rules.
A "public domain" license would have everything I ask for.
An "attribution" component, if attribution to OSM suffices, would be
acceptable, but I would really like to make this optional, a suggestion
instead of a forced rule. It would create problems for a small number of
users who, for political reasons, cannot do attribution, but I could
live with that.
An "attribution" component requiring attribution to every contributor is
very problematic, especially as contributors might not always want it.
("This warhead sent to you using data mapped by Frederik Ramm!" Yes, our
data can and will be used to kill people.)
Any kind of "share-alike" component, whether aimed at the data or at the
finished product, has the huge problem of properly defining derived
works in our context, or more colloquialy, the level of "infection". I
can make up a hundred examples all in a grey area. If interpreted too
broadly, share-alike can be a killer for commercial applications.
I could live with a share-alike component if it is very limited, i.e.
requiring only the data taken from our database and changes made
directly to that data to be "shared alike", but if the whole final
product or whole new layers of information introduced to the data must
be shared, then we are firmly on the path to become the "hobbyist's
world map", or our license will be heavily circumvented by constructs
where people only distribute "diffs" of our data, have their end-user
download OSM data, merge it with the diffs, and use the combined
dataset, or things like that.
Also, any kind of share-alike component should be controllable by the
foundation or some other body to whom contributors transfer this right,
so that legally binding, reliable decisions and exemptions can be made.
Bye
Frederik
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