[OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] The OSM licence: where we are, where we're going

rob at robmyers.org rob at robmyers.org
Wed Jan 9 11:29:43 GMT 2008

Quoting Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>:

> Sounds like you're targetting individuals whom you do not trust to
> make an informed choice.

I am targeting people who would remove the ability of others to make  
an informed choice.

> I know that there are whole schools of philosophy reliant on the "we
> know better what is good for the average man so we have to keep the
> tempations away from him" but I don't subscribe to that.

Nor do I. Do you believe that people should be prevented from forcing  
this philosophy on others?

> You accuse Jochen of having an "ideological commitment to market
> competition", but is your idea that the general population is too
> stupid to decide for themselves whether they want to use the "free"
> data or the "non-free" competition product any less ideological?

My idea is not that people should be forbidden from choosing free or  
non-free products. High-quality proprietary maps clearly already exist  
and nothing is stopping people from starting their own company or  
government department to make even more proprietary maps. So I don't  
understand how OSM can stop people making or using non-free maps  
through its choice of licence.

My idea is that OSM is not just another such offering. Its practical  
value is not that it is yet another shiny branded utility in the  
marketplace, its practical value is that it provides a resource that  
can be used wherever it is encountered. Copyleft ensures that this  
practical value is available for all, PD allows it to be restricted  
for others. To allow others to remove choice is not better than trying  
to ensure that others keep choice.

- Rob.

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