[OSM-legal-talk] Copyright of OSM-Logo

Jochen Topf jochen at remote.org
Tue Nov 18 15:32:10 GMT 2008


On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 08:04:00PM +0000, MJ Ray wrote:
> > Does 
> > anybody here really think that the foundation's chairman would snatch 
> > the trademark away from his own organization? [...]

Unlikely. Maybe Steve or somebody else from the foundation can shed some
light on how this happened and what the plans are to remedy the
situation?

I see the first mentioning of the Trademark issue in the 15th November
2007 meeting minutes "OSMF Trademark - Steve to obtain formal quote.".
Again in April 2008 "OSM Trademark Quote - Steve planning to do a search
personally (L 80)". In May it is "OSM Trademark Quote - Steve still to
progress". Later the subject seems to get lost. Maybe the unpublished
minutes from more recent meetings have some information.

What is also unclear: Are we talking about the OSM trademark or the OSMF
trademark. In the Nov 2007 minutes its OSMF, later its OSM.

> It wouldn't be the first time, but I expect it was a mistake.

While we are on this topic. What about the domain name openstreetmap.org?
It also belongs to Steve personally:

> whois openstreetmap.org
[...]
main ID:D104738119-LROR
Domain Name:OPENSTREETMAP.ORG
Created On:09-Aug-2004 18:47:25 UTC
Last Updated On:04-Aug-2007 13:39:08 UTC
Expiration Date:09-Aug-2009 18:47:25 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-07651304
Registrant Name:Stephen Coast
Registrant Street1:68 Delancey Street
Registrant Street2:Camden
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:London
Registrant State/Province:England
Registrant Postal Code:NW1 7RY
Registrant Country:GB
Registrant Phone:+44.2076177472
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:steve at asklater.com
Admin ID:GODA-27651304
Admin Name:Stephen Coast
[...]

This contradicts what Etienne said here:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2007-July/015071.html

"The OpenStreetMap was established about a year ago to serve a number of
purposes. [...] Specifically the foundation is the custodian of the
servers located at UCL and the www.openstreetmap.org domain name."

Jochen
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