[OSM-legal-talk] Paid services from OSM

[Simon Ward]

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 08:48:07AM +0100, Peter Miller wrote:
> 1) We clarify that a Derived Database is only deems to exist when the
> martial changes have occurred to the content of the DB, but not if the
> dataset has merely been processed into a different format.

Merely processing into a different format needs to be clarified.  If
someone takes OSM ways + nodes + relations and imports it into PostGIS
without changing any of it, I see that as processing into a different
format.  I believe that PostGIS DB should be freely available.

> 2) We clarify that when any derived Database should be made available in a
> 'reasonable' time period. This deals with the minutely update concern.

“reasonable” is too variable.  The derived database should be made
available as the product using the data is.

> 3) That any Derivative Database can either be provided together with the
> end-user experience or can be published in a publically accessible forum
> where an interested user may be reasonably expected to find it. [Not sure is
> this is good enough - do we really always want full publication of the DB?]

The key is being able to access the DB, if I understand the ODbL
correctly.  Of course, I could be very wrong.

[Yes, preferrably, though publication of modified parts may be
acceptable.]
> 
> 3) That any Derived DB should be made generally available in a form designed
> to allow it to be conveniently processed by a computer. [The wording isn't
> very good - but I think you see what I am getting at]

Wording… :)  I’ll pick up on “generally available” since that implies
“public” when it should be possible for someone to use the data, and
derive from it, without ever releasing it to anybody else.

I’d comment on “in a form designed to allow it to be conveniently
processed by a computer” too but I suspect that’s where you mainly
thought the wording wasn’t good (and I agree).

Simon
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