[OSM-legal-talk] OSMHQ (Open Street Map High Quality): Viable Alternative For The National Map Corps

Joseph Gentle josephg at gmail.com
Thu Sep 4 06:10:05 BST 2008

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Nathan Vander Wilt <nate-lists at calftrail.com
> wrote:

> On Sep 3, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> > All that being said, there are many people in OSM who would actually
> > prefer a non-viral license (including me). Hope is more or less lost
> > to
> > get the whole of OSM to adopt a BSD style license, but I hope that we
> > can at least somehow flag data that comes from PD sources and/or has
> > only been touched by people like me who assert that everything they
> > contribute is PD. See this page for details:
> >
> >
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Category:Users_whose_contributions_are_in_the_public_domain
> >
> > You guys in the US have a good base there with the TIGER data; any US
> > user who makes a modification to anything imported from TIGER and
> > who is
> > *not* on the above list basically makes that data item un-PD
> > forever, so
> > I hope to see many of you on that list. One could then one day create
> > OSM extracts that have all the data untouched by people who want to
> > use
> > the viral license.
> The last I'd heard on this sort of "extraction" is that it would be
> largely infeasible. The wiki has a bit of a thread on this:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Dual_licensing_idea
> , which links to discussion about "whose node" but there has also been
> uncertainty raised regarding not just editing nodes themselves but
> what those nodes are edited in relation.
> Has this been further discussed, perhaps off-list, and determined to
> be feasible after all? If not, it seems to me that "extraction" would
> be more trouble (legal and technical) than it'd be worth. Why not
> start a sister project with known pure PD sources and just edit from
> there? It might be a few years behind, but in the grand scheme it
> could be healthy to have a bit of competition in the open mapping
> arena. (And of course OSM would be free to integrate the public domain
> project's work into their reciprocally licensed database as well, so
> they could always be "winning".)



> thanks,
> -natevw
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