[OSM-legal-talk] ODbL: How obscure/inaccessible can published algorithms be?

80n 80n80n at gmail.com
Sat Dec 12 18:30:21 GMT 2009


On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Matt Amos <zerebubuth at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 3:43 PM, 80n <80n80n at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On what basis can you demand from company B that they release their
> > intermediate database?  You don't know (for sure) that they have an
> > intermediate database.  The ODbL doesn't give you any rights to ask
> company
> > A to warrant that they are not using an intermediate database.
>
> company B is required, under the ODbL, to provide an offer of their
> derived database (or a diff, etc...).
>
> > What kind of duck test can you use to be sure that a derived database is
> > involved in the process?
>
> if you suspect that someone is using a derived database, and isn't
> making an offer of it, you are suspecting that they are in breach of
> the ODbL. this can be tested by asking the company and, if they don't
> provide a satisfactory response, legal proceedings could follow.
>
> Exactly.  On what grounds would you suspect that either company was using a
derived database?




> this is similar to the AGPL. if you suspected that someone was
> distributing or allowing "users [to] interact[...] remotely through a
> computer network" with a derivative version of AGPL'd code, you could
> ask them where the corresponding offer is and, if they don't provide a
> satisfactory response, legal proceedings could follow.
>
> cheers,
>
> matt
>
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