[OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

[Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)]

"(contract fusion, database fission and
anti-copyright-matter)". Inspired :-)

Cheers

Andy

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>bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Andy Allan
>Sent: 25 March 2009 7:09 PM
>To: Licensing and other legal discussions.
>Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons
>
>On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:37 PM, SteveC <steve at asklater.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 25 Mar 2009, at 11:34, Andy Allan wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:36 PM, SteveC <steve at asklater.com> wrote:
>>>> On 22 Mar 2009, at 06:08, 80n wrote:
>>>> The complexity arguments are largely superfluous.
>>>> [...]
>>>> I get in my car every day and drive to work without knowing
>>>> how the engine management system works but it's not a 'show stopper'.
>>>
>>> I disagree with you there Steve. The problem is that *we're the guys
>>> building the engine*, and yet we don't know how the engine management
>>> system works.
>>
>> I agree that the authors and groups who built the GPL need to
>> understand it, at least to the degree possible with no training in
>> law, but do I as a user and contributor to GNU/LINUX need to? That I
>> thought was the point?
>
>A) The GPLEMU - an engine management unit already used in 14,000
>models of car, and 12 other manufactures. I'm heading up the OCMcar
>project, and someone suggested using the GPLEMU. I see cars using the
>EMU all over the place. It's been roadtested for ten years. People
>have sued each other over it, and it's still fine. I'm pretty happy
>using the GPLEMU in the OCMcar project, even though I don't understand
>it. I don't really need to scrutinise it much.
>
>B) The ODbLEMU - an engine management unit that's not finished yet. It
>uses three technologies (contract fusion, database fission and
>anti-copyright-matter) that have never been tried before in
>combination. It's complex. It's untested. It's not even finished, but
>it will be real soon now. It's probably going to work, because the
>guys who are making it seem pretty smart and their hearts are in the
>right place, but then again, it might not. Reports back from other
>Physicst-legals suggest that there might be fundamental science
>problems combining those three technologies that simply can't be
>overcome.
>
>The OCMcar project board (OCMcarF) are asking me whether I should bet
>the farm on the ODbLEMU. I say we need to think it over carefully, and
>give it way more scrutiny than I would the GPLEMU. Can you see why?
>
>Cheers,
>Andy
>
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