[OSM-legal-talk] PublicEarth and their Terms of Use

Martijn van Exel mvexel at gmail.com
Wed Nov 18 15:13:10 GMT 2009

I wonder if Google is going to change their terms of use now they are
shedding their major map data providers[1][2]. Being liberated from
their terms of use – for now, in the US only – Google is free to
conjure up any terms of use for their map data they like. Their
'Google Maps/Earth Terms of Service' still prohibit Google Maps users
from creating any derivative work[3] - which a project such as
PublicEarth certainly seems to be trying to do. In that way they are
in much the same kind of trouble as GeoNames[4]. They seem not to care
too much themselves though[5].

[1] http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/09/19/google-maps-now-using-teleatlas-data-exclusively/
[2] http://blumenthals.com/blog/2009/10/12/google-replaces-tele-atlas-data-in-us-with-google-data/
[3] http://www.google.com/intl/en_us/help/terms_maps.html - see 2(b)
[4] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geonames
[5] http://forum.geonames.org/gforum/posts/list/262.page

martijn van exel
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On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> Tim Waters wrote:
> > Then there's the nice issue of making a database from users
> > identifying locations based on Google Maps.
> You mean that issue nobody except OSM seems to care about ;-)
> If they'd be using OSM, would they have to CC-BY-SA all their data? [Is
> that why the aren't?]
> I don't think the business will fly but it's worth a try. It's one of
> these things that I'd never attempt because I'd think it is so obvious
> how I'm trying to siphon off community knowledge and not let the
> community use that knowledge - but quite a few businesses thrive on that
> and I can literally hear armies of PublicEarth fanboys cry out "how cool
> is that!". Bet they have some kind of iPhone app to go along with it.
> Bye
> Frederik
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