[OSM-legal-talk] FW: Crown copyright dates ( OS Reference 72267)

Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrlists at googlemail.com
Tue Oct 13 15:58:56 BST 2009


I'm comfortable that the OS has spoken. A map published with a (c) date
means the (c) date applies and if no (c) date printed then the last
publication date on the sheet applies.

At least we have a basis to move on though I think we could still appeal
this latest FOIA response.

Cheers

Andy

>-----Original Message-----
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>bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Barnett, Phillip
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>Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FW: Crown copyright dates ( OS Reference
>72267)
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>Doesn't this appear to contradict the advice given to Tim SC here?
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>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:TimSC/CopyrightFOI
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>From: legal-talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org [mailto:legal-talk-
>bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
>Sent: 13 October 2009 15:33
>To: 'Licensing and other legal discussions.'
>Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] FW: Crown copyright dates ( OS Reference 72267)
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>As I suspected the OS has taken a hard line with respect to copyright and
>publication date.
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>Cheers
>
>Andy
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Customer Services [mailto:CustomerServices at ordnancesurvey.co.uk]
>Sent: 13 October 2009 2:10 PM
>To: blackadderajr at googlemail.com
>Subject: Crown copyright dates ( OS Reference 72267)
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>Dear Mr Robinson
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>Ordnance Survey reference: 72267
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>Thank you for your email dated 30 September 2009 requesting: seeking
>clarification regarding Crown Copyright status for those Ordnance Survey
>map
>sheets which do not carry a specific Crown Copyright (c) date.  Please
>provide confirmation of the date when, for the following hard copy printed
>map sheet examples, Crown Copyright expired or will expire.
>
>
>
>Example 1:  1:25,000 First Series. Sheet SU93. Print edition C//. Made and
>published by the Director General of the Ordnance Survey, Chessington,
>Surrey, 1948.  Reprinted with minor corrections 1960.
>
>
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>Example 2:  1:25,000 First Series. Sheet NY21. Print edition C//. Made and
>published by the Director General of the Ordnance Survey, Chessington,
>Surrey, 1956.  Reprinted with minor changes 1963.
>
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>Example 3:  1:25,000 First Series. Sheet SO98. Print edition B///*. Made
>and
>published by the Director General of the Ordnance Survey, Chessington,
>Surrey, 1953.  Reprinted with the addition of new major roads 1967.
>
>
>
>We are pleased to provide you with the following information with regard to
>your request.
>
>
>
>Crown copyright is retained for 50 years from the end of the year in which
>the last date of publication on, in this instance, an Ordnance Survey map
>is
>stated.  In the examples provided this means for example 1, from 31
>December
>1960 until the end of 2010; example 2 from 31 December 1963 until the end
>of
>2013; and example 3 from 31 December 1967 until the end of 2017.
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