[OSM-legal-talk] Is tracing from Yahoo allowed under the CT's

[David Groom]

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From: "Frederik Ramm" <frederik at remote.org>
To: "Licensing and other legal discussions." <legal-talk at openstreetmap.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is tracing from Yahoo allowed under the CT's


>
> David,
>
> David Groom wrote:
>> Secondly from the second line of 
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Yahoo#Legalities  you will see the 
>> phrase "Yahoo! have agreed to let OSM use their aerial imagery" [ under 
>> the old licence terms], and large parts of the remainder of that page go 
>> on to mention the agreement with Yahoo etc.
>
> I fixed that page.
>
> If you read the page closely, it already said further down that "It seems 
> to be more a case of agreeing an interpretation of their Terms of Use.", 
> and the Yahoo! guy quoted did not say anything about an "agreement".

By the way, I did read the page closely, and included the above text in my 
original post :)

>
> Truth is, Yahoo were approached by us and basically said: "Yes we think 
> it's ok if someone traces vector data from our maps, that would not be our 
> copyright anymore". Which meant, *specifically*, that OSM could trace and 
> release under CC-BY-SA, and since that was all that was of interest to us 
> at the time, we put that wording on the wiki page.
>

Thank you for clarifying that Yahoo did not give agreement that was  limited 
to CC-BY-SA

David

> If there ever was an "agreement" it was not about who can use the data 
> under what license, but instead - and that took us a while to sort out - 
> how exactly we were allowed to display Yahoo data in our editors.
>
> Mikel Maron did the talks with Yahoo at the time.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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