[OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] NearMap Community Licence and OSM Contributor Terms

[SteveC]

On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:56 PM, John Smith wrote:

> On 20 August 2010 05:23, SteveC <steve at asklater.com> wrote:
>> I think the bigger issues is NearMap mistaking the intention and the word of the license. We can debate for the next millennia the meaning of a "future free and open license" under the specific wording of what that might mean. These are open issues that will take a long time, possibly a lot longer than the ODbL process to figure out.
> 
> You were doing so well until this point, Nearmap's lawyers made those comments.

Sure, but who employed them and are repeating it, and going along with it? 

>> I don't think we're going to get anywhere bouncing between people who want everything to be PD (like USGS) and folks who want it to be some variant of attribution-sharealike and possibly NC (NearMap).
> 
> Where/when did Nearmap mention NC?

In their original email. I wasn't quite sure of the context, thus I wrote "possibly".

>> The other way of cooling this off is to not see the ODbL as the final step. I don't think it was intended to be. Once that's in place, then the field is open to discuss the next steps.
> 
> Most disagreement seems to be over CT not ODBL, but they're being sold
> to us as a package deal, even Nearmap indicated they may not have a
> problem with ODBL...

Yes, in this case "ODbL" I take to mean shorthand for the whole process, the CT's and so on.

>> Finally, I think the most honest step forward for NearMap and us unless they show some compromise on things like past data is to just shut it off. Believe me, there are a lot of other aerial imagery options being pursued hard and NearMap aren't the be all and end all. If they don't want to play ball and want to place restrictions on OSM, lets just work on alternatives.
> 
> Personally I don't think Nearmap is being unreasonable,

I don't think they're being unreasonable about the future, we all have points to make about the process, the CT's etc. It's holding the past data hostage I don't personally feel is very cool.

Steve

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