[OSM-legal-talk] I want my access back

ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.gremmen at cetest.nl
Thu Aug 11 14:32:14 BST 2011

So by citing my e-mail without a license, you
made an infraction to my copyright,as you are actually
republishing copyrighted work 

May be we should consider your email (and this one too), as a derived
work ?

And I can sue you because, contrary to maps in dbase format
that represent the real world (facts: ok there is no consensus about
that yet)
my words are copyrighted by default.

There must be a limit to what can be considered a breach of intellectual
property !

I must admit that at least your attributed my words !


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Simon Poole [mailto:simon at poole.ch] 
Verzonden: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:42 PM
Aan: legal-talk at openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] I want my access back

Am 11.08.2011 12:00, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert
> Thanks Simon for your constructive reply.
> (contrary to those that call any confliction opinion a troll)
> But the EC directive does not oblige us to license
> data, it says HOW-TO in case of IF.
> If we choose for no-license or just PD
> (give it to the world) no directive will stop us doing that.
> That is why I said: the necessity of a license has
> never been subject of discussion (but for some incidental
> threads).

The default condition is that your rights to your work of art, database 
in the case of the sui generis database rights) etc. are protected. If 
you want
to allow somebody to use your work, you have to grant them the rights to
so, this is called a license. Even in the extreme case of essentially 
everything to be done by anybody, you still have to state this. In the
countries that do not have an PD equivalent, this again boils down to a

> I believe that our data will be most beneficiary to the
> people of this world if our license terms are minimized
> (so PD).
So do I, but that is a completely different discussion. The compromise
between the PD and the viral share-a-like license fractions is the ODbL,
trying to undo that will -not- result in a PD OSM database.


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