[OSM-legal-talk] A license bot that has produced too many errors

[Simon Poole]

Am 17.07.2012 13:01, schrieb FK270673 at fantasymail.de:
> The detrimental license bot now has reached Germany and promptly left a lot of errors here.
>
> Let's just look at one city, Göttingen in Northern Germany, where I have contacted some undecided users, so I have some knowledge about pre-bot history. 
>
> There are so many errors with severe legal implications,
Ok... lets see:


>  so I would like to publish them on the legal-talk list. Their manipulated history is such a heavy infringement of Creative Commons license that even an agreer could easily sue the OSMF if he was willing to waste time and money on a senseless trial. Let me show the examples:
>
> - agreeing mapper's node disappeared
> http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=60580009

No legal implication.
>
> Version 3 of this node (51.5400973, 9.9564636) was last edited by agreeing user Sasude. By removing this precisely located node, an intersection of four streets was destroyed.
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> - street has disappeared completely
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> The southern part of Dahlmannstraße with bus route No. 6 has disappeared completely though it was last edited by agreers.
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> - intersections were cut off
> - ODbL history ignores agreeing users
> http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=8091768

No legal implication.

>
> Both intersections were cut off though these nodes were last edited by an agreer.
> Undediced mapper Hotte Degoe has created an empty line without any tags. All tags were added by agreeing users, all points have been moved by agreeing users as well.
> Only v1 should be hidden, all other versions by agreeing mappers should be visible.
No legal implication.
> - decliner included in ODbL history
> http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=60922724
>
> Lobelt has declined the new contributor terms so far mainly for political reasons, but he still appears in the "clean" ODbL history because he has removed a senseless tag. Removing a tag does not constitute a copyright, but mentioning him in the history is an infringement of moral rights.
> v2 should be hidden.
Why would -mentioning- him be an infringement of moral rights, if at all
it would be the other way around. No legal implication.
> - OSMF Redaction Account claims to be the only author
> http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=8573909
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> Since the OSMF Redaction Account did not create any way, he cannot pretend to be the author of any way. This pretense is illegal according to Creative Commons and rude though legal according to new ODbL license.
> At least some human users should appear in the history.
>
> - ODbL history ignores too many agreeing users (2nd example)
> http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=8094092
> Undediced mapper Hotte Degoe has created an empty line without any tags. All tags were added by agreeing users, all points have been moved by agreeing users as well.
> Only v1 should be hidden, all other versions by agreeing mappers should be visible.

Currently edits by agreeing users that would expose material by a
non-agreeing user are not displayed by the API/GUI. All users that have
agreed to the CTs have agreed to "bulk" attribution, no material from
non-agreeing users has been used (exception trivial edits that are
attributed as you note). No legal implication.
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> These seven examples are quite simple cases without any complications. I am sure that some of you will be able to find many more examples where the bot has made severe errors.

Well up to now you have not found a single case with an "error"......

Simon