[OSM-legal-talk] Attribution

derrick nehrenberg derricknehrenberg at gmail.com
Tue Apr 29 18:34:05 UTC 2014

I have heard and read some describe OSM as 'data'. I usually remain on the
sidelines as an observer, but Richard W.'s comment reminded me of something
I have thought more than once. OSM is open data, but I think that is an
inadequate definition, because it is much more than that. It is a
"community of open data contributors" as well. In my view, share-alike is
an integral requirement for joining the community. Without it is certainly
conceivable that the data would grow bigger and better, but I can also
envision how dropping the requirement would eventually lead to the demise
of the community. However, I do not think it's a case of data on the one
hand and community on the other. They are the same hand. And, so I think it
is important to remember the community, which is  largely a silent bunch.
It's the community that brought OSM to the big data dance...
On Apr 29, 2014 11:52 AM, "Richard Weait" <richard at weait.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Luis Villa <lvilla at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> [ ... ]
> > But it is a reality that [ fear of a Share Alike obligation(?)]* slows,
> > or in some cases stops, adoption of/contribution to OSM.
> Slows contribution to OpenStreetMap?  That sounds incorrect to me.
> ODbL and particularly Share Alike _encourage_ contribution to
> OpenStreetMap.
> One very simple way to be sure you are Sharing Alike is to make your
> improvements to the OpenStreetMap data first, then consume and reuse
> the data.  That's probably the ideal consumer of OpenStreetMap data;
> the consumer who shares their improvements first then consumes the
> data unchanged.  And it is a rock solid, dead simple way to meet your
> Share Alike obligations.
> Does avoidance of Share Alike obligations reduce adoption of
> OpenStreetMap data?  Perhaps it does reduce adoption by those who have
> decided to not improve the OpenStreetMap data by sharing their
> potential improvements.  Those who could improve OpenStreetMap data
> but who chose not to do so are excluding themselves from participating
> fully in the OpenStreetMap community.
> That is their choice.
> We as OpenStreetMap contributors see "improving the data" as a core value.
> * I hope that I have parsed your intent correctly, Luis.  The
> paragraph I trimmed also discussed copyright case law and lack of case
> law for "substantial" in this context.
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