[OSM-legal-talk] strava heatmap

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Fri Aug 12 13:37:26 UTC 2016


Hi Joost

This is nearly a FAQ see for example this thread
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2015-July/008159.html

If necessary I can draft a text for the case of deriving data by tracing
from imagery or similar sources.

Simon
 
Am 12.08.2016 um 14:57 schrieb joost schouppe:
> Hi,
>
> I was recently made aware that the Strava permission for mapping is
> not quite certain. I was preparing a mail to maps at strava.com
> <mailto:maps at strava.com> , see below. But then I thought this wasn't
> really for me to do. Any advice on content and procedure? 
>
> Also, do we have an "official document template" for data providers to
> sign to allow for use in OSM. We made this in Dutch
> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Licentie_GR_OSM.pdf
> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Licentie_GR_OSM.pdf>), for an
> organization that wanted to share data and understood the implications
> (they just didn't want to licence their data directly to competitors,
> but were willing to take the chance that their competitors used OSM).
> If there isn't anything else, I could translate that to English for
> future reference. The templates I found are all questions, not answers.
>
> ---
>
> Hi,
>
> Strava GPX heatmaps are becoming more popular as a tool for
> OpenStreetMap, as your service grows and grows. It is a pleasure for
> us to map paths, knowing the data is going to be of immediate use to
> at least one of your clients.
>
> However, using this data rests on a shallow foundation. Our wiki pages
> [1] state that we can use all the heatmaps for mapping purposes within
> OSM. There is no formal documentation corroborating this, which means
> Strava might have changed their minds on this without us knowing. We
> do not want to take a risk with stuff like this. So please can you
> formalize this permission - or the lack there of?
>
> Our current mapping seems to be based only on an edit to our wiki [2]
> and a tweet [3], both by the same former member of your team. But then
> this same person implied [4] we can only use it within the Strava ID
> editor.
>
> We would love to keep improving the map for your users, so we hope it
> is still OK. A mail to me is of course not enough. The best would
> probably be a clarification page on your website. Even better a signed
> document stating the data can be used for OSM mapping, for us to
> upload to our wiki pages for future reference.
>
> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Strava
> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Strava>
> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Strava&diff=1187453&oldid=1137980
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Strava&diff=1187453&oldid=1137980>
> [3] https://twitter.com/paulmach/status/455182880306905088
> <https://twitter.com/paulmach/status/455182880306905088>
> [4] https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2716#issuecomment-121759915
> <https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2716#issuecomment-121759915>
>
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