[OSM-legal-talk] Trying Again - Horizontal Map Layers for Custom Video Game Data

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Wed Oct 19 12:01:36 UTC 2016

IMHO it is unlikely that randomly generated (during the game) data would
be considered a database to start with, if you are not using OSM data
for such features in any case, then there is even less reason for
concern. Further as long as you remain within the boundaries of the
trivial transformations guideline
there is no need to make the original OSM data available again.


Am 14.10.2016 um 00:29 schrieb Corey S.:
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> Hi there!
> I'm looking to use the Open Street Map data to construct a separate
> map, mainly importing the road, building, and parks data for use. My
> intended use is to create a "grid like" system for an online, tile
> based video game (not to be confused with "tiles" in the OSM sense,
> but squares like on a board game or RPG -
> see http://orig04.deviantart.net/88fd/f/2014/050/f/9/new_caverns_by_nicnubill-d776qy8.png
> <http://orig04.deviantart.net/88fd/f/2014/050/f/9/new_caverns_by_nicnubill-d776qy8.png> as
> an example.) I already know that since I am using OSM data to create
> this map, it is a derivative work, and the map will need to be
> publicly available and I will credit OSM.
> During play of this game, there will be randomly generated NPCs (non
> playable characters) and some random other elements like rocks (both
> which would not compete with any feature type of existing OSM
> information, as "rock data” for example, would not be imported from
> OSM). These elements will only be generated as an overlay on tile
> squares which are “human moveable” - most likely road and park
> squares. Their positions are sometimes secret, and discovery of these
> positions is a goal within the game.
> My questions are surrounding horizontal map layers, as outlined here
> - http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Horizontal_Map_Layers_-_Guideline
> <http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Horizontal_Map_Layers_-_Guideline>:
> 1. Am I allowed to only make publicly available the database of the
> tile-based map (roads, buildings, parks) WITHOUT the randomly
> generated layer of NPCs and other elements like rocks?
> 2. Am I correct in thinking that these elements would be considered
> non-OpenStreetMap data, or would they, since these elements operate
> within the bounds of the existing road, building, park grid squares?
> 3. If I am needing to distribute these additional layers in the
> database dump, how would it be applicable? Their positions would be
> changing constantly, potentially daily if not hourly from the online
> backend system.
> Thank you very much for reading my question.
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