From fernando.trebien at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 23:04:13 2018 From: fernando.trebien at gmail.com (Fernando Trebien) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2018 20:04:13 -0300 Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Brazilian postal code database patent application in Germany apparently rejected Message-ID: Hello, In Brazil we're discussing the legality of mapping postal codes using official data sources and we've found formal communications from the Brazilian Post (EBCT) [1] saying that the organization has filed a patent on the database with German Patent Applicatations, reference number 10.346.551.0. I've found the application on DPMA's website [2], but I'm unfamiliar with the terminology, so I'd kindly like to ask you for some help interpreting what it says. Under "Procedural Data", an "Examination procedure" was started in 2010 and its "Legal/procedural status" was set to "Decision to reject has become final" in 2016. Does that mean that the application was rejected? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correios [2] https://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/pat/register?AKZ=103465510 -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 99962-5409 "Nullius in verba." From simon at poole.ch Sat Mar 10 23:53:36 2018 From: simon at poole.ch (Simon Poole) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 00:53:36 +0100 Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Brazilian postal code database patent application in Germany apparently rejected In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: IANAL It seems as if whatever they tried to patent in Germany was actually definitely rejected. Notes: - this does not imply that they failed elsewhere, YWHTPM to find that out. - while patents can apply to the processing and use of OSM data and potentially (by a long stretch of imagination) to data representation in OSM, they are orthogonal to other IP and other commercial rights, aka copyright, fair competition so on, which is typically the major concern when considering use of third party datasets in OSM. - in general you should not be using anything for which permission for use in OSM is not clear, it is simply not worth it. Simon Am 11.03.2018 um 00:04 schrieb Fernando Trebien: > Hello, > > In Brazil we're discussing the legality of mapping postal codes using > official data sources and we've found formal communications from the > Brazilian Post (EBCT) [1] saying that the organization has filed a > patent on the database with German Patent Applicatations, reference > number 10.346.551.0. I've found the application on DPMA's website [2], > but I'm unfamiliar with the terminology, so I'd kindly like to ask you > for some help interpreting what it says. > > Under "Procedural Data", an "Examination procedure" was started in > 2010 and its "Legal/procedural status" was set to "Decision to reject > has become final" in 2016. Does that mean that the application was > rejected? > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correios > [2] https://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/pat/register?AKZ=103465510 > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: