[OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

[Simon Poole]

Yes, if a Derivative Database was created in the first place, and that
is not clear at all, see:

/“Derivative Database” – Means a database based upon the Database, and//
//includes any translation, adaptation, arrangement, modification, or any//
//other alteration of the Database or of a Substantial part of the//
//Contents. This includes, but is not limited to, Extracting or//
//Re-utilising the whole or a Substantial part of the Contents in a new//
//Database./

Essentially the question is if the envelopes of the extracted points are
a substantial extract of our data (because they represent the residual
information/data from OSM), while it is obviously possible to construct
cases were this would be the case, in the typical relatively sparse POI
scenario I don't quite see that.

I don't particularly like engaging in these discussion because they tend
to end up being arguments about how many angels can stand on a pin and
are not answerable outside of the detailed specifics of the actual use
case (which are typically not available).

Simon

Am 12.12.2019 um 20:05 schrieb Nuno Caldeira:
> https://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/index.html
> the license is quite clear and 4.2 applies to the case you mention.
> any use of OSM data (over 100 nodes) combined with proprietary data
> results in more open data under ODbL. 
> we are here to create more open data, not to feed proprietary data
> than is lock under their TOS. 
>
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2019, 18:53 , <matthias.straetling at buerotiger.de
> <mailto:matthias.straetling at buerotiger.de>> wrote:
>
>     > From a practical point of view, boundaries in OSM rarely
>     originate from surveys,
>     > you might be lucky to be able to identify the original source
>     (most likely open data)
>     > which may have a more liberal license than ODbL (check the
>     history and changeset
>     > source tags / object source tags).
>
>     But I neither want to merge OSM data or add it to my data. I just
>     want to use it to
>     select points of my dataset.
>
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