[OSM-legal-talk] Warning about not mapping military areas

Edward Bainton bainton.ete at gmail.com
Tue Dec 22 18:12:42 UTC 2020


Fair enough. I'll moderate my objections to the authoritative tone, not the
message itself.

A factual statement that it's sometimes illegal for some types of person
would do it for me.

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020, 18:04 Frederik Ramm, <frederik at remote.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 22.12.20 10:09, Edward Bainton wrote:
> > Unnecessary: anyone in a country that makes it illegal to map military
> > sites knows about it (or ought to know).
>
> ...
>
> > I don't
> > recall anyone saying "I've just been interrogated for mapping this base
> > without realising that was illegal - please don't do it!"
>
> I think you might be having a too optimistic picture of how clever human
> beings are ;)
>
> I could, for example, perfectly well imagine a hapless western mapper
> armchair-mapping Syrian military installations under their real name,
> and years later being arrested when they enter the country as a tourist.
>
> Would a warning have helped them? No idea. But it is a serious issue and
> creating awareness for it will make our mappers safer. Yes, it might
> come across as paternalistic to those who have decided to break the law
> after careful consideration - but I'd rather be seen as paternalistic
> towards those (whose decision I respect) than be seen as endangering
> people by egging them on. A wiki page about how to record the details of
> military installations can very well give a thoughtless newbie the
> impression that it is of course totally ok to map all these things.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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