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Projeto TrackSource <faleconosco at tracksource.org.br>, 10 Mar 2021 Çar,
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> *De:* Kathleen Lu via legal-talk [mailto:legal-talk at openstreetmap.org]
> *Enviada em:* terça-feira, 9 de março de 2021 13:00
> *Para:* Licensing and other legal discussions. <
> legal-talk at openstreetmap.org>
> *Cc:* Kathleen Lu <kathleen.lu at mapbox.com>
> *Assunto:* Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Images ineligible to copyright as a
> simple shapes (OSM Wiki)
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> In my view, the author licensed the icons to OSM for OSM uses by adding
> them to the wiki.
>
> It would appear, based on the instruction at
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Icons/Map_Icons_Standards#2020_iconset:_templates_and_examples:
> "please if you do derivative work do not call it 2020iconset" that the
> author intended for the icons to be reused.
>
> I understand the purpose of Wikimedia Commons (public domain commons) to
> be different from the OSM wiki (info about OSM) and therefore do not see
> why Wikimedia Commons' practices should set some kind of standard.
>
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> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 2:59 PM Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk <
> legal-talk at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
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> I see following possibilities:
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>
>
> - works are explicitly licensed, I just need proof of that (failed so far)
>
> - works are intended for sharing, uploaded by author and OK for keeping
> also without
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> explicit licensing.
>
>    - but is it OK to reuse such works? Is keeping it on Wiki setting a
> trap for potential reusers?
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>      I know that on for example https://commons.wikimedia.org/ something
> like that would be
>
>     deleted but maybe we should be less strict?
>
>      Is it OK for me to take it and use it in CC-BY-SA 4.0 licensed map
> style that would be
>
>      publicaly displayed?
>
> - works are not original enough to qualify for copyright (rejected)
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> Mar 8, 2021, 20:54 by kathleen.lu at mapbox.com:
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> Based on the user page and
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Icons/Map_Icons_Standards, it
> sounds like the user themself created the icons. If that's the case, there
> is no additional license required, at least for the uses the user
> originally uploaded the icons for, so I see no reason for you to request
> deletion.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 11:26 AM Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk <
> legal-talk at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
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> Mar 8, 2021, 19:43 by kathleen.lu at mapbox.com:
>
> At least in the US, the threshold is quite low, and I would say all of
> your examples meet the threshold.
>
> (For road signs, but not icons, there's also separately the issue of fair
> use.)
>
> :(
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>
>
> Now I am worried about some other things from
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>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:PD-licensed_as_below_threshold_of_originality
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> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Multipolygon_Illustration_3_de_plus_benachbarte_fl%C3%A4che.svg
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> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Mapbox-680.png
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> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Amenity_stripclub-icon.png
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> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Amenity_stripclub.svg
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> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Brasil_history_points.svg
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> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Icon-Edit-map.png
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> I do note that all of your examples came from the same user. Have you
> tried contacting that user?
>
> Yes. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Sergionaranja
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>
>
> Replied to request in 2014, but I am not sure how can I interpret this and
> it applies
>
> to only subset at best.
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> Q: Would it be OK for you to let us distribute your icons alongside JOSM
> code (GPL2+) ?
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> A: it is ok with me
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> There was no reply to request in 2016, so I am not expecting reply to my
> request,
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> sadly it may be necessary to delete them :(
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> I will try to reach out again or in some other way as this icons are
> pretty nice and
>
> may be useful (unlike some less useful images where I just request
> deletion by wiki admins).
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>
>
> Scroll down on
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Labelled_for_deletion page
>
> to see where deletion is currently requested.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 1:31 AM Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk <
> legal-talk at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
> I am trying to process
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Media_without_a_license
>
>
>
> My problem right now is deciding which images fit
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:PD-shape
>
> "simple geometric shapes. These are not eligible for copyright alone
> because they are not original enough"
>
>
>
> For example I am unsure about:
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:2020_st_powergensource_wind.svg
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:2020_st_placeofworship_shinto.svg
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> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:2020_st_amenity_pub.svg
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> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:2020_st_amenity_restaurant.svg
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> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:2020_st_placeofworship_sikh.svg
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> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:2020_st_placeofworship_pastafarian.svg
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> I would appreciate any help in any of below:
>
>
>
> - deciding whatever describing this images as simple geometric shapes
>
> ineligible for copyright as not original enough is correct
>
>
>
> - looking at
>
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:PD-licensed_as_below_threshold_of_originality
>
> whether images there are actually so simple to be below threshold of
> originality
>
>
>
> - help in spotting wrong or misleading content on any of linked pages
>
> (I am not a lawyer)
>
>
>
> - help in processing
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Media_without_a_license
>
> (marking images for deletion where appropriate, replacing images with
> unclear copyright
>
> with one where it is clear, asking uploaders to clarify licensing status
> etc)
>
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