[OSM-legal-talk] Layouts

Vincent Veldman Vincent at veldman.me
Thu Jan 19 09:09:20 UTC 2023


There's recently been the question about layouts of shopping malls, airports, markets, etc..

is it allowed to make a photo of these and use the layout at a means to map in Openstreetmap?

https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Plugin/PicLayer

This is a plugin clearly intended for such purposes. Especially reading the section:


 What do I need to use this action?  an image, preferably a floor plan information about side length of building 


It does say at the top:"Make sure the image is suitable, copyright-wise, if in doubt, don't use."

Probably someone should add this as a reminder behind the "Floor Plan" as it's quickly overlooked by the reader.

But the main question is - how does the mapper know if it's legit? Just principally assuming it's always not allowed?

https://matthewjamestaylor.com/floor-plan-copyright

Reading such an article - many similar on the internet - basically is referring to using such plans to actually build it.

clearly - a mall layout or airport layout isn't even close to a real floor plan to actually build one.

You need wall thickness, materials, etc.. of all and tons of more which is on the real floor plan - is obviously not available to the public.

So that data basically disqualifies itself from any use to build anything based on the layout.

But far-stretched thinking - maybe someone would actually use OSM for a general layout and based on that design  a mall or airport..

Which would be illegal clearly. Yet this is very far-stretched..

So how would one have to consider this layouts we see in malls and other buildings? Principally illegal to use?

Thank you
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