[Mailman] HOT pipermail email server

Pierre Béland pierzenh at yahoo.fr
Mon Aug 7 23:37:40 UTC 2017

Administrators of the hot list report excessive rebounds from my yahoo.fr email address, this is seems related to DMARC policy. 

Content of the bounce message can be seen at https://gist.github.com/bgirardot/4b36faf57726dce75c518c70cf9aea86

But my email adress is Legitimate  and if I interpret the pipermail server log correctly, it indicates that the message originated from yahoo.com servers

| Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by |

 sonic310.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 5 Aug 2017 15:04:56 +0000
My official address is from yahoo and I dont use the gmail. Do you have any idea how to fix such problem coming from the pipermail server negociating with gmail servers? 

As I understand it, this is the pipermail server that negociate with gmail sending HOT messages. Then how this be related with my own email ?

Do other subscribers are using yahoo email addresses and this a general problem with yahoo not recognized by gmail servers? 

      De : Blake Girardot <bgirardot at gmail.com>
 À : Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr>; Pierre Béland <pierzenh at gmail.com> 
Cc : hot-owner at openstreetmap.org
 Envoyé le : lundi 7 août 2017 9h23
 Objet : Can you please subscribe to the HOT email list using a gmail.com account?
Hi Pierre,

It seems that any gmail email address on the HOT email list, gmail
will not accept list mail messages from yahoo.fr accounts.

gmail says it is an issue with yahoo.fr for not being configured correctly.

Here you can see the errors that get returned:


Over the weekend it caused 600+ HOT email list subscribers to have
their list subscriptions disabled.

Not sure why that never happened before and it was not every gmail
user, but about 75% of them so maybe it was just a onetime problem.

If you could please un-subscribe your yahoo.fr email address and use
your gmail.com or any other provider's email address that would really
help things.

600+ disable accounts is really unfortunate and a lot of manual work
to fix and unneeded confusion for the email list subscribers who had
their subscriptions disabled.


Blake Girardot
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