[Moderation] How goes?

[Peter Miller]

On 4 Nov 2009, at 22:08, Mark Williams wrote:

> On Wednesday 04 November 2009 14:05:09 Peter Miller wrote:
>> People are continuing to spot vandalism and funny edits around the
>> world - See this post on talk-gb today.[a1]
>>
>> I am sure that there are many other dodgy things going on that we are
>> not even spotting!
>>
>> Would it be worth reviewing what moderation tools under development  
>> or
>> already available: In particular tools to allow us to patrol new
>> users, manage white and black user lists, spot unusual patterns of
>> changes (lots of features suddenly getting changed when they have  
>> been
>> stable for a long time) etc?
>>
>> In particular ... are there any plans to get the history tab on the
>> main OSM site to only show changes that do actually impact on the  
>> view
>> area - which would probably be the single more significant change  
>> that
>> could be made at present to help monitor changes (currently  
>> changesets
>> that cover wide areas show up all over the place even if no changes
>> where made in the area in question).
>
> +2 or 3 to that one!
>
I can see that a bounding box test is really that expensive in  
computing time to add (as suggested by Frederik) because once one has  
a list of changesets with overlapping bounding boxes there are only a  
few more tests to do. We do this as part of the OSM Mapper product as  
a matter of routine, but I feel that this basic change monitoring must  
be part of the main site supported by core open source software - not  
using a commercial company's offering such as ours.

> Otherwise I'm afraid it's mostly down to spotting stuff in josm or  
> on the
> Garmin - surprisingly often, that one! I'm happy to say it's more  
> beginners
> that malice  around the IOW, but haven't looked to see what dear old  
> Liam123
> has been up to in my absence.
>
> I see much more traffic in talk than here on the subject.
>

I pretty much gave up on reading talk when I came back from a weekend  
away one weekend to find 400+ posts from the list awaiting me. I  
realise that this quantity of posts was a bit of an aberration, but  
talk is far to busy to be able to create a community around a focused  
interest in my opinion and I feel that this subject is too important  
to get drowned in tagging debates about tree-lined avenues or whatever  
the current conversation is about (not that I disapprove of  
conversation about tree-lined avenues as such, I just don't want to  
read them!).

Do others agree? If so then should we encourage interested parties to  
transfer their conversations from talk to this list?

As a start would be be useful for people forward cross-post articles  
from other lists (national lists and talk mainly) where they are  
appropriate so we can at least see what is being discussed that is  
relevant?

As a starting point could someone highlight the recent and relevant  
threads on talk?



Regards,


Peter


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