[Moderation] Revert request - Russia, Irkutsk - Evgeny Mandrikov

Peter Miller peter.miller at itoworld.com
Sat Oct 3 14:58:19 BST 2009


On 3 Oct 2009, at 13:14, John Smith wrote:

> 2009/10/3 Peter Miller <peter.miller at itoworld.com>:
>> One way is a visual comparison of imported data in OSM with other
>> probably sources of what is on the ground and also the possible
>> sources of the plagerised material  - including photography and
>> proprietary mapping.
>
> Do you mean something like this?
>
> http://sautter.com/map/?layers=00B000TFFFFF

Yes, that is what I meant. Nice stuff. So... if one uses that tool on  
the area we were talking about [1] we can see some interesting  
differences between the building outlines on the google photography  
and the OSM building outlines. If these differences (or 'signatures')  
were also found on a copyright source to a significant degree and no  
formal permission is available then we should report the contribution  
to the Dat Working Group for investigation.

The only thing that stops me doing so is that I don't know who might  
have copyright data for the place. Google don't have it, and nor does  
Bing so I wonder who does - possibly the local authorities.

While investigating this I have created an image from OSM Mapper to  
see when the contributions occurred and who has been contributing in  
the area. The import we are talking about occurred in about January  
with nothing done since or indeed before.[2]  What is noticeable is  
the way the building import stops at the top left of the image on a  
solid horizontal line.

I then checked using OSM Mapper and have identified another user has  
imported buildings north of that line in about April time.[3] This  
certainly looks like a bulk import in two batches.



Regards,


Peter


[1] http://sautter.com/map/?layers=00B000TFFFFF&zoom=16&lat=52.29713&lon=104.29714
[2] http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/685499/Evgeny%20Mandrikov.png
[3] http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/685499/KekcuHa.png




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