[OSM-newbies] How to map a place that allows to cross a waterway=stream

Thorir Jonsson thorirmar at gmail.com
Sat Dec 6 12:07:01 GMT 2008


I would tag this as a ford.

>From wikipedia:

"A ford is a place in a watercourse (most commonly a stream or river)
that is shallow enough to be crossed by wading, on horseback, or in a
wheeled vehicle."

A ford can be of any width, size and shape, as long as it is passable
(most of the time) by the vehicles (cars, horses, pedestrians, etc.)
it is intended for.  The image on the map features page shows a very
small ford passable by all cars.  Some fords are deep with strong
currents only intended for large cars and competent drivers:
http://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mynd:LandCruiserInThorsmoerk.jpg

A ford on a path is no different, it is still a ford and should be
tagged as such.

Best regards,
Þórir Már Jónsson



On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Stefan Breunig
<stefan at mathphys.fsk.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
> I'm not asking how to tag the way, but the point of crossing.
>
> Greetings
> xeen
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 15:21, John Wesley Simpson <john at swajime.com> wrote:
>> Shouldn't you just put in the path and tag it like it shows here ->
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_samples/out_of_town#Footpath ?
>>
>> --
>> John Wesley Simpson <john at swajime.com>
>> SwaJime's Cove
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 10:40 +0000, David Ebling wrote:
>>> If there is no bridge or ford, I would suggest that there is nothing that should be marked on the map. If the path crosses over the stream, it should be obvious that the stream has to be crossed, but that it is normally possible. I suppose you could tag the node shared by both with something that you feel reflects the situation, but I can't imagine what a renderer would do with it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 5/12/08, Stefan Breunig <stefan at mathphys.fsk.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> > From: Stefan Breunig <stefan at mathphys.fsk.uni-heidelberg.de>
>>> > Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] How to map a place that allows to cross a waterway=stream
>>> > To: dave_ebling at yahoo.co.uk, newbies at openstreetmap.org
>>> > Date: Friday, 5 December, 2008, 9:06 AM
>>> > That could work although it won't be visible on a
>>> > "drawn" map. Well,
>>> > it was visible before only in mapnik's highest zoom
>>> > level when you
>>> > looked closely.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> > Greetings
>>> > xeen
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 09:25, David Ebling
>>> > <dave_ebling at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> > > I'd map it with a trail going straight over,
>>> > sharing a node with the stream. Just like a level crossing
>>> > between a railway line and a road.
>>> > >
>>> > > Or did I misunderstand?
>>> > >
>>> > > Regards,
>>> > >
>>> > > Dave
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --- On Thu, 4/12/08, Stefan Breunig
>>> > <stefan at mathphys.fsk.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> From: Stefan Breunig
>>> > <stefan at mathphys.fsk.uni-heidelberg.de>
>>> > >> Subject: [OSM-newbies] How to map a place that
>>> > allows to cross a waterway=stream
>>> > >> To: newbies at openstreetmap.org
>>> > >> Date: Thursday, 4 December, 2008, 9:02 PM
>>> > >> The problem is:
>>> > >> There's a small waterway=stream and there are
>>> > trails
>>> > >> from both sides,
>>> > >> but there is no bridge or ford or anything else
>>> > that would
>>> > >> ease
>>> > >> crossing the stream. It's just a place without
>>> > bushes
>>> > >> and trees and
>>> > >> the stream is relatively small so crossing is
>>> > easier. How
>>> > >> should I tag
>>> > >> this feature so it allows routing software to
>>> > understand?
>>> > >> It's easily
>>> > >> understandable for humans that this place is
>>> > probably
>>> > >> suitable for
>>> > >> crossing since there are trails from both sides,
>>> > but that
>>> > >> there's no
>>> > >> special "thing" that allows that.
>>> > However,
>>> > >> navigation software of
>>> > >> course won't route there.
>>> > >> Any ideas?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thanks!
>>> > >> xeen
>>> > >>
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