[OSM-newbies] road classification for industrial park

Cartinus cartinus at xs4all.nl
Sun Mar 29 16:16:22 BST 2009


On Sunday 29 March 2009 16:05:40 Bill Ricker wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Cartinus <cartinus at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > If it really is a service road, then by all means tag it as such. But the
> > fact that it doesn't have a name doesn't make a road a service road to
> > me. This sounds like a bad case of tagging for the "renderer".
>
> that's gratuitously insulting, pigeon holing without information, and
> wrong.
>
> /me may be violating rule against responding to trolls, but in case
> others are confused by rash assertions.
>
> The MassGIS dataset is very good for having names for thing that have
> them, and has quite a few private ways that are included because they
> were involved in some planning process, which have none of the
> standard data for public ways. seeing which tags it has and has not
> tells me something of the pre-import history of the record and the
> Yahoo imagery shows me what building it goes behind.


My mail starts with: "If it really is a service road, then by all means tag it 
as such."

So if those roads you are describing are really service roads, then you can 
ignore the rest of that mail and you don't need to act insulted. And 
certainly can refrain from insulting me by starting to call me a troll.

On the other hand there have been enough people who see Cloudmade's noname 
render and think every road without a name is an error and it needs fixing. 
Which is blatantly wrong. There do exist roads without names.

You yourself write (while talking about industrial estates): "Minor roads 
could be unclassified or Service road. If unnamed, service road."
Not having a name is not enough for a road to qualify as a service road.

Next you write: "Many of them are imported nameless so they show up on QA Red, 
and the easy fix is to make them Service Roads."
_easy fix_ are your own words. This make you look like someone who is tagging 
for results in some quality tool. Not someone who is looking at what is 
actually on the ground.

On top of all that, the person who asked the original question is, as far as I 
can tell from his previous mails, mapping in Mexico. So he is 
mapping "virgin" territory. Having an assumption that might work in relation 
to the MassGIS import is in this case at least incomplete advice, but more 
likely inappropriate advice.

-- 
m.v.g.,
Cartinus




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