[OSM-newbies] cycle map rendering

[Thomas Meller]

agree! agree! agree!

Yes, that's exactly what I am missing.
Render the motorways grey if you like
render primary roads white if you like
render footpaths in a light color if you like
render paths as thin black lines if you like

But render them.

I know of no footway or path where it wouldn't be allowed to push your bicycle.
Over steps, you can carry it.

Even lots of hiking_paths are fit for a MTB.

Interpretation of the map is the map-user's job.
No-one else's decision or resposibility.
The equidistance should be warning enough.

Even bikers have some brains.
(really, when it comes to driving or riding, most people get lost in this respect)

The map is a tool.
No-one will sting holes into his nose with a screwdriver. (?)
At least, that doesn't prevent anyone from selling them.

OK, let's get normal again.
If I can help with proposals or design feedback, I'd be glad to do so.
Maybe it's a good idea to use a wiki page for proposals or design discussion.

Thanks
Thomas

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:46:27 +0100
> Von: Matthew Freake <Matthew.Freake at ipreo.com>
> An: "newbies at openstreetmap.org" <newbies at openstreetmap.org>
> Betreff: Re: [OSM-newbies] cycle map rendering

> On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 01:41 +0100, Dave F. wrote:
> > > Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > > You're right.  To that end, I hope the cyclemap stops rendering
> > > > motorways and footways that don't have the bicycle=yes tag.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > I can't work out if your being sarcastic or not.
> > > Are you suggesting you want a cycle map that shows no ways other
> > > than those can be used for bicycles?
> 
> > Yes.  When was the last time you saw a trail map that included roads,
> > or a motorist map that included cycleways that wasn't OSM?  If they are
> rendered at all, some faint, deprecating color would be a good idea.
> 
> All the cycling maps I use for the UK (for instance the official Sustrans
> maps, or the cycling route books by Nick Cotton) include roads like
> motorways, for the reasons given. It would be very odd (and I think, unhelpful) if
> you were to cycle along a cyclepath underneath a motorway and such a
> distinctive landmark was not included. I often use such landmarks for
> navigating.
> 
> But you are right, that there has to be a way to render them so that they
> do not distract from the actual cycling routes.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Matt F
> 
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