[OSM-newbies] Questions about adding cycling paths in Moscow

[Brian S. Boon]

Alex,

So, if I use "bicycle=designated" on an existing way, it should appear in
OpenCycleMaps, and does not mean that it is exclusive to bicycles?

I suppose the phrase "dedicated shared use" is a bit unclear.  What I meant
was that part of the paths are either sidewalks painted with bicycle symbols
(but still allow pedestrians) or actual roads that are closed to cars (so
that people can walk, bike, and roller-blade there).

In order to use ncn/rcn/lcn, I think that I have to create a separate
physical way, don't I?  Or can I do that as a relation?

... this is all really much more complicated that I had expected.  You
almost have to become an expert in OSM technical jargon just to add in your
favorite cycling route.  :(

Brian

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[mailto:newbies-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Alex Mauer
Sent: Friday, 11 September 2009 19:09
To: newbies at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] Questions about adding cycling paths in Moscow

On 09/11/2009 09:00 AM, Brian S. Boon wrote:

> 1.	The route is essentially a large sidewalk for most of the way.  It
> is shared daily by pedestrians, cyclists, and rollerbladers, although
> technically, I'm pretty sure that it's just a sidewalk, and not a
multi-use
> pathway.  Is it OK to label this as a cycling route?

I would suggest using bicycle=designated for this.  Probably
cycleway=track is OK as well.  I would avoid highway=cycleway, as it is
a shared-use path.

> 2.	Parts of both routes are actually dedicated shared-use (pedestrian,
> cyclist, rollerbladers) paths.  How can I mark those parts of the path as
> "dedicated use"  paths without breaking the overall path structure?

Can you explain what "dedicated shared use" is, as opposed to
non-dedicated shared use?  If you just mean that it is designated for
several modes of transport then you'd want something like
highway=path+foot=designated+bicycle=designated+roller_blade=designated
(note that the last is not an official tag...).

> 3.	Parts of the route on the South side of the river overlap existing,
> already-mapped roads.  I tried once already to map the cycling route over
> the existing road, but the cycling route seemed to be obscured by the road
> much of the way when I looked at it in OSM.  Is there a proper way to
> overlay a cycling route on an existing road?  Keep in mind that my goal
here
> is to ensure that these routes show up on OpenCyclingMap.

One way to ensure that they'll appear on OCM is to use ncn/rcn/lcn as
appropriate.

-Alex Mauer "hawke"