[OSM-newbies] Fence in middle of street

[Mike Harris]

In the UK it is quite common for minor roads in rural areas to be gated -
either at each end or for a section in the middle. The purpose is for stock
control and the gate serves the same purpose as a cattle grid. The road is a
continuous route - often for motor vehicles as well as for horse, cyclists,
walkers. The gates are normally closed and always unlocked; it is up to the
traveller to open and close the gate. In no way is the area between the
gates 'restricted'. I would simply put a gate at a node on the road and tag
it in the usual way as a highway barrier and add motorcar=yes etc.  This is
quite different to the case that started this thread where a fence across a
street prevented traffic crossing it. I believe that the 'interpretation' is
impossible and  unjustified. It would be necessary to survey on the ground
to find out whether the gate was a barrier to traffic, a gate that the
public can open and close to continue  their journey, or the intermediate
case of a gate that can be opened and closed only for access or by a
householder.

Mike Harris
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave F. [mailto:davefox at madasafish.com] 
> Sent: 03 February 2010 12:49
> To: newbies at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] Fence in middle of street
> 
> Pieren wrote:
> > Speaking for myself too:
> > - if there is a fence and a gate across the road, I 
> interpret this as 
> > a boundary of a restricted access area.
> 
> In all cases? You should only 'interpret' (I think you mean 
> guess) when there is clear evidence. Especially if using 
> aerial photo's etc.
> 
> 
> > Then yes, I put a node or a short line (if I can draw the fence as 
> > well) tagged with barrier=gate. Then I split the highway at 
> the node 
> > with the barrier
> 
> Why?
> If there's a gate the highway is continuous & traversable. Doing that 
> would cause problems for the likes of routers.
> 
> > and add one of the access tags on the highway itself within the 
> > restricted area (private/permissive/destination)
> 
> Only if there clear indication such as a sign.
> Farm fields have barriers just to prevent the livestock escaping. Why 
> would you put an access tag to the field entrance gate?
> If there's a public footpath passing through that gate you 
> wouldn't put 
> an access tag, would you?
> 
> Cheers
> Dave F.
> 
> 
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