[OSM-newbies] New source for editing Openstreetmap in Balearic Islands (Spain)/Nueva fuente para editar las Islas Baleares

[Xan]

En/na Richard Weait ha escrit:
> 2010/3/29 Xan <dxpublica at telefonica.net>:
>   
>> I will answer this mail. But refering to the condition of tagging
>> source=ideib.cat, really, really, really it's not the case.
>>
>> The permission they give me is _literally_:
>>
>> "You could use the IMATGES-AERIES service [N.T.: aerial imatges service]
>> as a background for editing other layer. You only have to cite the source"
>>
>> That we have to "cite the source" I interpreted as put source=... put
>> really, it suffices to mention "IDEIB" in the comment of the update data
>> (comment tag I think), in "note" tag, in anything else. But mention the
>> source.
>>
>> Xan.
>>
>> En/na Richard Weait ha escrit:
>>     
>>> 2010/3/28 Xan <dxpublica at telefonica.net>:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I just have to say that I did not "negotiate". I only make a question if
>>>> I could use the WMS in openstreetmap. Only a question.
>>>>
>>>> Good if OSM Foundation negotiate directly with them and get some better
>>>> conditions.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Dear Xan,
>>>
>>> You presented the information as if the data was okay for inclusion in
>>> OSM.  Please update your wiki page to indicate that this is a
>>> potential data source, but is not yet okay for inclusion in OSM.  And
>>> please pass that along to any other channels (talk-es and others) you
>>> may have used.
>>>
>>> If they donate data under PDDL, or data is available as Public Domain,
>>> that's generally okay from a license perspective.  But that does not
>>> address the quality or suitability of the data.  Both of those must be
>>> considered as well.
>>>
>>> Did you tell them that OSM would add source= for each object?  Then
>>> you negotiated.  Do they think that you speak for all of OSM or the
>>> OSM Foundation?  Then you negotiated.  ;-)
>>>
>>> I applaud your enthusiasm and the initiative in finding a potential
>>> data source.  But licenses are complicated and OSM aims to stay
>>> unassailable in our respect for the data of others, as we expect
>>> others to respect our data.
>>>       
>
> Dear Xan,
>
> I apologize for presuming that you negotiated this agreement without
> OSM Foundation participation.  Iván Sánchez Ortega from the Foundation
> says you have discussed this with him, and that is right way to
> proceed.  Good work.  Sorry to have misunderstood.
>
> Best regards,
> Richard
>
> _______________________________________________
>   

Don't worry Richard. I am not angry with you. The critics always be welcome.
For the other hand, what is the best place for "cite the source"?
They only say that we have to "cite the source" but I don't know what 
the best place for doing that:
- in the source tag
- in the comment tag (something like for example  "Fixed some roads. 
Source: ideib and others"). I say the comment I put in JOSM just before 
I upload data to OSM
- in note tag?

I think the best is the first. But are the other tags also valid for 
citing the source? If yes, I will modify the wiki and put that  people 
could choose what they want, but the best is x.

Regards,
Xan.

@ Iván: thanks for the intermediation.... ;-)