[OSM-newbies] Pavements, pedestrian crossings, road widths, house numbers, parking restrictions, speed limits, public transport timetables
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Thu Mar 17 13:26:51 GMT 2011
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On 17/03/2011 12:55, Sam Kuper wrote:
> ...
> Now, I see from your link that pedestrianised streets and squares are
> handled by OpenStreetMap, but I don't see any examples of roads having
> pavements alongside them.
As they used to say on Blue Peter, here's one I prepared earlier:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/44976968
See:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Footway
for the documentation. Ignore the "Proposed" bit of the link, that's
just wikibollocks.
> The implication is that as far as OpenStreetMap is concerned,
> pedestrians share the road surface equally with cars, trucks, bikes,
> buses, motorbikes and so on, which is not normally the case in the
> countries I've visited.
Strictly speaking no, it means that OSM doesn't know because no-one has
collected the data. Routers may well decide that where
footway=no/left/right/both isn't available that people can still walk
from A to B (in UK cities pavements are so common that they tend to get
assumed by mappers I think).
> In rural areas in Swaziland, China, Zimbabwe, France, the USA and the
> UK, and in some rare urban cases too, one encounters roads with
> pavements only on one side, or on neither side. Routing pedestrians
> along such roads would be inappropriate, but unless the presence or
> absence of pavements is represented somehow, how could one expect a
> routing algorithm to make a sensible choice?
>
It was the lack of roadside pavements near where I lived that prompted
me to start recording them near where I live. This is a "lack of data"
problem rather than a "how could we represent that data" problem, which
rather comes back to what Richard said at the end of his reply:
"So my specific advice to you, about extending OpenStreetMap with this
data, is for you to go out and do your first survey for OpenStreetMap."
Cheers,
Andy
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