[OSM-newbies] newbies Digest, Vol 81, Issue 4

Fri Dec 20 21:58:15 UTC 2013

Thanks Ian and Andrew. 2 good response to get me started.
I have responded to Ian via private OSM email.
Andrew:
   The strange appearance is due to its width. The portion I added connects
a short bridge to the east and a short section to the west that already
existed. The existing trails that I connected to are lines of dashes but my
addition is is far more than that. Ian says my addition has a bridge tag so
I need to review that. I did not add a bridge tag.
   Is "highway=footway the correct designation for a bike/walking path?
Seems strange it would not read just "way" instead of "highway". Does that
yield a line of dashes which I think is what I want?
   Will I need to use JOSM to fix my addition? It seems quite Imposing for
me as a novice.
Fred

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> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:31:26 -0800
> From: Fred Felter <felterf at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [OSM-newbies] help editing a trail contribution
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> My first post here.
> I recently contributed a GPS trace to complete a foot/bike path near where
> I live. The result in OSM has a strange appearance and I cannot figure out
> how to fix it. Since this is new to me I could really use some personal
> tutoring to get me through this problem. Is this an appropriate forum for
> that? And if not, where?
>
> My trace is http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/frefel/traces/1614067. I
> wanted my entire trace to be used but only a section was. What I added
> looks more like a road than a foo/bike trail and I don't see why?
>
> Thanks for any help.
> Fred
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> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 11:48:28 +0800
> From: ianmac nz <ianmacnz at gmail.com>
> To: Help for newbie mappers <newbies at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] help editing a trail contribution
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> Hi
>
> You have used the tag bridge=yes for the entire length of the track to the
> west of the creek crossing.
>
> The rendering for bridges looks similar to some roads.
>
> Try removing that tag for the west section of the trail.
>
> You also need to join the west section of track to the bridge.
>
> Hope that helps
>
> PS - (tried to send an embedded image but that's not working)
>
> Ian
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> On 20 December 2013 11:31, Fred Felter <felterf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > My first post here.
> > I recently contributed a GPS trace to complete a foot/bike path near
> where
> > I live. The result in OSM has a strange appearance and I cannot figure
> out
> > how to fix it. Since this is new to me I could really use some personal
> > tutoring to get me through this problem. Is this an appropriate forum for
> > that? And if not, where?
> >
> > My trace is http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/frefel/traces/1614067. I
> > wanted my entire trace to be used but only a section was. What I added
> > looks more like a road than a foo/bike trail and I don't see why?
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> > Fred
> >
> >
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> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:05:57 +0900
> From: Andrew Errington <erringtona at gmail.com>
> To: Help for newbie mappers <newbies at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] help editing a trail contribution
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> Apologies if I underestimate what you know, but a gps trace will not
> show up on the map.  We use the gps trace as a guideline to draw roads
> and trails on the map itself.  It looks like you have done this and
> drawn a way on top of the trace, and it's tagged highway=footway
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/249319492
>
> What is strange about its appearance?  It looks ok.
>
> The only thing you can (and should) do is make sure the way is tagged
> properly.  If you think it is, then you're done.  The way the way (!)
> is drawn is dependent on the rules for the specific renderer that you
> are looking at.  If you select a different map layer from the menu on
> the right you will see your path drawn in a different style (and
> sometimes not at all).  It's up to the renderer to decide what to
> render and how to render it.
>
> What you *must not do* is alter the tags to make something look the
> way you want it to on the map.  For example, maybe you'd like a road
> to be drawn blue (because you like blue), so you could tag it as a
> river.  It would look blue, but it would be wrongly tagged.  It's an
> extreme example, but illustrates the point.
>
> What do you think needs to be fixed?  If you want the entire trace to
> be used then you must draw a way along the entire length.  It's
> possible that somebody else already did some parts of it, so you could
> re-align the existing ways to your trace, or you could leave them as
> they are.  Don't forget that the gps trace may be offset by several
> metres in any direction, so it might not be in exactly the right
> place.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Andrew
>
> On 20 December 2013 12:31, Fred Felter <felterf at gmail.com> wrote:
> > My first post here.
> > I recently contributed a GPS trace to complete a foot/bike path near
> where I
> > live. The result in OSM has a strange appearance and I cannot figure out
> how
> > to fix it. Since this is new to me I could really use some personal
> tutoring
> > to get me through this problem. Is this an appropriate forum for that?
> And
> > if not, where?
> >
> > My trace is http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/frefel/traces/1614067. I
> > wanted my entire trace to be used but only a section was. What I added
> looks
> > more like a road than a foo/bike trail and I don't see why?
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> > Fred
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > newbies at openstreetmap.org
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:07:10 +0900
> From: Andrew Errington <erringtona at gmail.com>
> To: Help for newbie mappers <newbies at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] help editing a trail contribution
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> Ah!  Missed the bridge=yes tag!  Other than that it looks fine.
>
> On 20 December 2013 13:05, Andrew Errington <erringtona at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Apologies if I underestimate what you know, but a gps trace will not
> > show up on the map.  We use the gps trace as a guideline to draw roads
> > and trails on the map itself.  It looks like you have done this and
> > drawn a way on top of the trace, and it's tagged highway=footway
> >
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/249319492
> >
> > What is strange about its appearance?  It looks ok.
> >
> > The only thing you can (and should) do is make sure the way is tagged
> > properly.  If you think it is, then you're done.  The way the way (!)
> > is drawn is dependent on the rules for the specific renderer that you
> > are looking at.  If you select a different map layer from the menu on
> > the right you will see your path drawn in a different style (and
> > sometimes not at all).  It's up to the renderer to decide what to
> > render and how to render it.
> >
> > What you *must not do* is alter the tags to make something look the
> > way you want it to on the map.  For example, maybe you'd like a road
> > to be drawn blue (because you like blue), so you could tag it as a
> > river.  It would look blue, but it would be wrongly tagged.  It's an
> > extreme example, but illustrates the point.
> >
> > What do you think needs to be fixed?  If you want the entire trace to
> > be used then you must draw a way along the entire length.  It's
> > possible that somebody else already did some parts of it, so you could
> > re-align the existing ways to your trace, or you could leave them as
> > they are.  Don't forget that the gps trace may be offset by several
> > metres in any direction, so it might not be in exactly the right
> > place.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > On 20 December 2013 12:31, Fred Felter <felterf at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> My first post here.
> >> I recently contributed a GPS trace to complete a foot/bike path near
> where I
> >> live. The result in OSM has a strange appearance and I cannot figure
> out how
> >> to fix it. Since this is new to me I could really use some personal
> tutoring
> >> to get me through this problem. Is this an appropriate forum for that?
> And
> >> if not, where?
> >>
> >> My trace is http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/frefel/traces/1614067. I
> >> wanted my entire trace to be used but only a section was. What I added
> looks
> >> more like a road than a foo/bike trail and I don't see why?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any help.
> >> Fred
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> newbies mailing list
> >> newbies at openstreetmap.org
> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies
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