[OSM-newbies] Adding to OSM database from Streetviews

[Rob Nickerson]

Looking at Google's T&C's I would imagine the following is an issue:

2. Restrictions on Use.
(g) use the Products to create a database of places or other local listings
information.

I would not worry too much though. As noted, this seems to be a great idea
and I would hope that someone will be able to help you develop an alternate
display software if they agree it is needed.

I don't think you need to licence the images as ODbL (in fact I think this
would be incorrect for images), but some content licence that allows use
for "tracing" in OSM would be helpful. Again ask on the dev list.

If you are struggling to work out the co-ordinates of the amenity, then you
may find some ideas in section 3 of this article on Traffic Sign
Recognition (item 2 in the google result)

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Traffic+Sign+Recognition+and+Localization+for+Databases+of+Traffic+Signs+Emil+Kr%C5%A1%C3%A1k+%C5%A0tefan+Toth

Traffic Sign Recognition and Localization for Databases of Traffic Signs
Emil Kršák Štefan Toth

Although the software seems to be closed source, there is a video of it in
action ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywyOWLXR01c ) and the paper
provides the position calculations. :-)

Regards,
Rob




On 14 May 2013 18:42, Tac Tacelosky <tacman at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've applied to the -dev list early this morning, not sure if I've been
> accepted yet, haven't seen any traffic from it, will post an introductory
> message when I am sure I'm on it.
>
> Yes, "editor" is a much better term than "bot".  I'm making calls to the
> API to get the current list of objects, and am just about to make calls to
> create a new changeset.
>
> But better really would be to figure out a way to integrate streetviews
> with a map editor, rather than the reverse.  For now, I'm simply adding a
> "Edit on OSM" link, though if there were a way to initiate a new node from
> the querystring then things would be much, much easier.  That's something
> I'll ask on the -dev list.
>
> As far as using the Google Player goes, my reading of it is that it's
> permissible to use the Google Streetview Player to view non-Google images
> and follow their terms of use.  Just like I can use Internet Explorer to
> view a webpage and be subject to that webpage's rules.  However, we can't
> remove the link to Google, which will show the Google Streetview of that
> same lat/long.  And copying data from that image would not be permitted.
>
> Tac
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The diy-streetview idea sounds great. For those people (like me) who
>> missed the first few emails, you can view the thread at [1].
>>
>> It seems to me that you want to create a tool for OSM contributors to
>> view these diy-streetview images and then be able to tag amenities that
>> then get added to the OSM database. As this requires manual intervention, I
>> wouldn't call it a "bot" (this will just get people worked up). It would be
>> either a plug-in for an existing editor, or a new map editor. Either way,
>> the best place for this is the dev mailing list [2]. I'm always surprised
>> at the level of content that is on the "newbie" list - often it's more
>> complex than the "talk" mailing list!!
>>
>> A couple of initial ideas come to mind:
>>
>> 1. Using Google viewer to show your DIY images for the intention of
>> editing OSM may be against Googles Terms and Conditions (you would need to
>> check), but the other issue is that it has Google's logo in the bottom
>> corner - we don't want contributors thinking that they can copy data from
>> Google Maps!
>>
>> 2. You would need to ensure that you are not duplicatiing data. Any
>> editor would have to download existing OSM data to see if the amenity is
>> already tagged.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>  Rob
>>
>> [1] http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/LJOxH4xhoL56q7LJhmyI
>> [2] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
>>
>
>
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