[OSM-newbies] Streetview / OSM Integration

Tac Tacelosky tacman at gmail.com
Tue May 14 21:21:08 UTC 2013


Very cool.   The GoPro Hero camera is a good choice for those kind of
shots, too, and is mountable (http://gopro.com/hd-hero3-cameras).

Your approach got me thinking about an alternative for the street views.
 We just added the ability to extract a static image.  We also have a
"distance" slider which indicates how far the object you're looking at is
from the location the streetview was taken.  Using the Bing imagery helps a
lot.  For example:

http://www.customstreetview.com/route/public/12#heading=176.86234965750444&pano=130428151429&pitch=-1.2614149923442353&zoom=3.3000000000000003

I'm noticing now that our distance slider isn't preserved in the URL, so
you'd have to extend the slider to about 70 meters, to where the curved
edge touches the front of the building as seen in Bing.

When you click on Snapshot, we save a static jpeg:

http://www.customstreetview.com/pano/static/130428151429.jpg?height=480&width=640&zoom=3.3000000000000003&heading=176.86234965750444&pitch=-1.2614149923442353


(Note: the image looks fuzzy because it's zoomed in a lot, to emphasize why
the lat/long of the photo isn't the lat/long of the subject of the photo).

The idea you triggered is that (1) we should adjust the EXIF info for the
snapshot to be what it's looking at, rather than where the camera was when
it was taken and (2) we could create a GPX route that included photos for
integration with the OSM tools.

I hope iD someday supports GPX and photos, I think it will become the
editor of choice for online users.

Tac



On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Dudley Ibbett <dudleyibbett at hotmail.com>wrote:

>  I effectively do my own streetview when driving to walks:
>
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Photo_Mapping_with_the_Drift_HD_Helmet_Camera
>
> It is setup to take images every 2 secs.  With a separate GPS datalogger I
> am able to view the images in JOSM.  Currently you click on the image icon
> on the editor to view the image.
>
> To be honest I collect many more images than I every look at.  Clearly the
> quality is very poor by comparison but more people might be able to afford
> such a camera and take pictures for others to use.  The other problematic
> area will be having some software to remove people's faces, car number
> plates etc.
>
> Its certainly a good idea but at this time it would also be useful to have
> a $300 camera option so more people can contribute.  The images could
> always be updated as the cameras improve.
>
> Dudley
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 14:31:34 -0400
> From: tacman at gmail.com
> To: newbies at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] Streetview / OSM Integration
>
>
> Thanks, Andrew.  Yes, your thinking is exactly right -- this can be used
> like a high-powered, multi-media GPX file.
>
> One issue, though, is that the camera is very expensive (around $17,000).
>  I've been driving around the DC area, and have collected about 15,000
> images so far.  We're still figuring out how to manage them, even at that
> relatively low number, processing them and uploading them to Amazon's s3
> can be very time-consuming.
>
> I'm hoping to connect with some of the map editors to talk about
> integration, toying with coming out to San Francisco for the conference to
> make some in-person connections.
>
> Tac
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Salzberg <
> andrew.salzberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As a mostly newbie myself, I have been following this conversation
> passively but just had a chance to look at your tool and I think it has the
> potential to be pretty amazing (has anyone tried something similar
> previously? forgive my ignorance)
>
> Obviously there's been huge growth (despite challenges and some opposition
> for valid reasons, in certain cases) in map editing based on aerial imagery
> - with the iD editor only the most prominent recent example. What's missing
> from aerial is all the detail you're trying to collect - addresses, street
> features, building heights, etc etc which have required on the ground
> mapping.
>
> But now - with your "DIY google streetview"  - we could have a way to
> start having folks adding these features without necessarily walking around
> mapping themselves. Am I right that volunteers might be able to strap a
> similar camera to the roof of a car (or bike, etc), drive around town,
> upload the photos, and then have others (if not themselves) use these
> tracks to update the map? (in a manner basically similar to the way GPX
> traces have been used in the past)?
>
> If so - sign me up. I'd be curious what type of camera you're using (how
> expensive, etc) and if you've thought about how others might upload
> imagery, how a standard license for the imagery might be worked out for new
> contributors, etc.
>
> Anyway - looking at your tool got me excited for the possibilities.
> congrats on the work so far.
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Tac Tacelosky <tacman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here's a link to our current Streetview tool, showing an area where
> there's very little OSM data:
>
>
> http://www.customstreetview.com/route/public/12#heading=55.14876886478911&pano=130428151423&pitch=-2.9371867297722107&zoom=0
>
> You can see that we were experimenting with a "Quick Add" feature beneath
> the image, the idea was set the zoom, pitch and heading, center an object,
> then quickly identify it -- "stop sign", "bike rack", "sidewalk cutout" or
> a very simple form "shop: nail salon", "restaurant, name=Al's Pizza", etc.
>
> But at the moment that part is getting complicated, so I simply have a
> link to OSM in the lower left.
>
> Feedback welcome.
>
> Tac
>
> PS Will add the ODbL license text for the images shortly!
>
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