[OSM-newbies] Church hierarchy

[Jim Mays]

Perhaps best to follow USGS format & simply mark their existence with
either a star, a crescent or a cross, or other symbols as appropriate.
JimM

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 1:47 PM, John Deters <jadeters at comcast.net> wrote:

> This is an outstanding example of why the hierarchy shouldn't be mapped in
> the main database. If it's important to the churches in question, it's
> their business.
>
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> John
> Awkwardly thumbed in on a phone.
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> On Apr 25, 2015, at 10:18 AM, "John F. Eldredge" <john at jfeldredge.com>
> wrote:
>
> Note that Baptists are less hierarchical than some other denominations. A
> given congregation may or may not be associated with local, state, and
> national associations, in any combination, and membership in a local
> association, for example, doesn't confer state or national membership.
> Among Southern Baptists, the state and national associations are commonly
> referred to as Conventions.
>
>
> On April 24, 2015 4:59:01 PM CDT, Bill & Kathy Patterson <
> bill_patterson at tricolour.queensu.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Actually I wasn't thinking of mapping the boundaries.  Rather I meant my
>> query to relate to the detail assigned while mapping specific church
>> buildings.  The denomination is already a tag (if I have my parlance
>> correct), but would it be reasonable to also specify within which deanery
>> and diocese (or which presbytery and synod) a church lies?  If so, should
>> this be done as a tag or as a relation? And although the denomination is
>> already in the information, does it add anything to specify the governing
>> body such as the Presbyterian Church in Canada vs. the Church of Scotland
>> or the Presbyterian Church in the United States.  And then there are the
>> baptists, with the American Baptist churches, the Southern Baptist
>> Convention, the General Baptist Ministries, the Fellowship of Evangelical
>> Baptists, and goodness knows how many other groups.  Somehow the tag
>> "Baptist" seems inadequate.
>>
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>>  *From:* John Sturdy <jcg.sturdy at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Bill & Kathy Patterson <bill_patterson at tricolour.queensu.ca>; Help
>> for newbie mappers <newbies at openstreetmap.org>
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 24, 2015 8:08 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [OSM-newbies] Church hierarchy
>>
>> I haven't seen any; what type of objects are you looking at mapping?
>> You could map the boundaries of the administrative areas, although I
>> don't think this is done.  For example, for my area and my
>> denomination (Anglican), if I search on the front page map for the
>> government county "Cambridgeshire", I get the county boundary, as a
>> relation containing several ways, but if I search for "Diocese of Ely"
>> I don't get anything.  But if you have the boundaries of the
>> lowest-level units (e.g. parishes) you could map those, and then build
>> deaneries and dioceses on top of those.
>>
>> __John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Bill & Kathy Patterson
>> <bill_patterson at tricolour.queensu.ca> wrote:
>> > Are there any recommendations for reporting church hierarchies in OSM?
>> For
>> > example, in the Presbyterian Church in Canada, and the United Church of
>> > Canada, congregations are members of presbyteries, and presbyteries
>> members
>> > of synods, a bottom-up structure.  In the Anglican and Roman Catholic
>> > churches I know that the diocese is part of their top-down structure.
>> >
>> > Should these be tags, relations, or ignored?
>>
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