[OSMF-membership] Managing OSMF membership using CiviCRM

[Simon Poole]

Am 08.01.2015 um 13:27 schrieb Jonathan Harley:
> On 07/01/15 13:04, Simon Poole wrote:
>> [note I volunteered for this group on a rather narrowly defined task]
> 
> (For context, I volunteered to offer my software project management
> experience - without knowing that any software work had already been done)
> 
>> While the board has at least formally never had a FOSS strategy, the
>> issue has been breached in the SWG and in general is a touchy topic with
>> the OSM community, further we are now having our membership data mined
>> by google and are loosing members at least in data privacy aware
>> communities because of that. Similar concerns are likely to apply to any
>> hosted CRM solution that do not provide us full control over the data.
> 
> Could you elaborate on this? How is Google mining the OSMF membership
> data, 

All data submitted to google can and is used (at least) to improve their
ad placement. It has been the subject of high profile court cases and
media coverage. This is not specific to OSM, they do it to everybody.
This effects anything stored with google and all e-mail sent via/to
their systems (they have however backed off a bit on the later).

> and how many OSMF members are we losing?

We obviously can't quantify it, but there are regular complaints at
least on the German speaking mailing lists and forums.

  >
> ...
>>
>> Now we could embark on producing a full spec and going in to a
>> evaluation process, but all in all I think that it would be more
>> realistic and expedient to simply get the experience with CivicCRM and
>> punt anything else to a potential 2nd round of automation down the road
>> (right now I don't believe that we could produce anything reasonable as
>> a spec that isn't simüly a gigantic wish-list).
>>
> 
> I feel producing a spec at the start is useful both to guide
> implementation and to help get everyone on a team on the same page.
>

My point was not to not produce a spec, but get some experience with a
system that is likely to cover a very large part of our needs. Down the
road when we get a better grasp of things and if we run out of steam
with CiviCRM then I would think everybody would support a more formal
procedure, but right now we are just trying to replace a google
spreadsheet and we don't even have any first hand or documented
experience with that  :-).

Simon

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