[Osmf-talk] [Talk-de] EVERYONE: PLEASE VOTE

Ulf Lamping ulf.lamping at googlemail.com
Thu Aug 20 03:43:38 UTC 2009

SteveC schrieb:
> We're in a very difficult position and don't always make the right  
> choices. CloudMade has contributed tens of thousands of pounds in cash  
> to the Foundation for things like sponsorship and servers. We've spent  
> man years on coding work. Nick, me and many other in CloudMade spend  
> far beyond 9-5 working to promote OSM and make it fly. But if we make  
> a small mistake we're hung up to dry by people like Frederik as some  
> kind of map-based Darth Vader figure.

If you're in such a difficult position, then I would suggest to be more 
open in your communication to the community. In fact, I've suggested 
that already before.

At the start of the voting period, something like: "Please note: 
CloudMade is currently domination the OSMF board of directors and also 
last years votes. If you want to change this, join the OSMF now and 
vote" would probably have reduced a lot of headache. That's what I would 
call open.

Having ~20 CloudMade employees joining the OSMF just before the board 
votes closes is like raising the fuel prices just before holiday season. 
It might have it's reasons but it just smells to anyone outside.

> I wouldn't normally point to all of that because I have a lot of  
> respect for you and I want GeoFabrik, ITO World and all the other  
> companies using OpenStreetMap to succeed. But you keep doing this  
> stuff without getting any push back, and if you're going to attack  
> people like this in public then you should declare the other side of  
> the coin.

 From Frederik I often get insights, from you I'm too often only hearing 

Regards, ULFL

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