[Osmf-talk] Legal edible violations

Anthony Clearn aclearn at yahoo.co.uk
Wed Aug 26 21:19:10 UTC 2009

I think the only sensible way to deal with this new development is a fork.  


From: Mike Collinson <mike at ayeltd.biz>
To: osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org
Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 20:52:18
Subject: Re: [Osmf-talk] Legal edible violations

The Foundation's License Working Group has indeed considered this to be a
grave matter and felt obligated to consider it at our Tuesday

May I therefore comment [*] on the various cases.

[1] The Toronto cake.

Clearly, following the correct terms of a the CC BY-SA license, all
contributors to OpenStreetMap should have been attributed.  We
therefore suggest a simple solution. All 151,815  names should be
printed on rice-paper using a legible font. Copies should then be sent to
everyone who had a slice of the cake. They should they consume the rice
paper in the presence of a notary or other legal professional. Since this
is what is known as a legal "cure", we recommend addition of an
unpleasant flavour, preferably tasting something between liquorice and

[2] The London cupcakes.

On investigation, we find that the author of these geocomestibles is a
member of the License Working Group.  We congratulate him on his
artistry and pronounce ourselves infallible.

[3] Mr. Gregory Marler's own cake

Certainly a creative, productive, and unexpected use but sadly it cannot
be distributed under CC BY-SA.  The pub symbols were made from a
sugar-based commercial representation of bottles of a certain extremely
well-known soft drinks manufacturer, who we suspect would be less than
happy to see their product placed under share-alike
provisions.   The good news is that this would not be a problem
under ODbL 1.0 . The cake itself would be a Produced Work, allowing the
use of mixed data sources with incompatible licenses. 


* The members of the License Working Group are not culinary professionals
and cannot offer definitive guidance. Please consult a chef. All opinion
offered here is on an "AS IS" basis and may not be fit for
purpose. We are not responsible for lack of taste or food

Oh yes, and :-) :-)

At 02:48 PM 24/08/2009, Mike Collinson wrote:

Dear Gregory,
>>This is a candieldy serious set of allegations, something which, if true,
>is not something our community should stomache. I am certainly not
>prepared to swallow it and will also raise the matter at the License
>Working Group meeting on Tuesday.
>>However, I would ask you to consider that spatio-comestibles is very much
>a pioneering area and that we at OpenStreetMap are a sweet way ahead of
>Google and the Ordnance Survey in the UK. Further, Richard's cake did
>remain fully on-line during this weekend's server maintenance period and
>we should be grateful for that. Perhaps all we need to do is add a
>properly attributed marzipan-layer to the slippy map?
>>And remember, only with OpenStreetMap can folks have their map and eat it
>>Best Regards,
>>Michael Collinson
>>:-)Â  :-)
>>At 01:33 24/08/2009,
>sotm at livingwithdragons.com > wrote:
>I would like to inform the
>>Foundation of two acts that need to be 
>>>>legally followed to protect the OpenStreetMap interests.
>>>>1. In Toronto a cake was produced using OpenStreetMap data that need not
>>>>have the correct attribution on it. See 
>>>>2. In London, a number of cupcakes were produced with the OSM trademark
>>>>logo on top of the icing. This use of the registered trademark did not
>>>>have prior authorisation from OSMF.
>>>>It is important that the foundation uses it's resources to take firm
>>>>legal action, and most importantly make it widely known that my OSM 
>>>>birthday cake was far superior to them, perhaps only bettered by the
>>>>Japanese cake makers. Does anybody know where SteveC will be uploading
>>>>his video interviews (including my winning speech)?
>>>>Gregory Marler
>>osmf-talk mailing list
>>osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org
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