[Osmf-talk] New license change proposal status

Emilio Anzon emilio at anzon.it
Wed Dec 2 20:37:19 UTC 2009


On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 12:06:08PM -0800, SteveC wrote:
> 
> On Dec 2, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Emilio Anzon wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 10:17:58AM -0800, SteveC wrote:
> >> 
> >> On Dec 2, 2009, at 4:14 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> >>> Frederik Ramm wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> All the pain I expressed above could have been reduced a bit if you
> >>>> could have been bothered to put the three-part question to the community
> >>>> like I suggested:
> >>>> 
> >>>>>> ( ) I release my data under ODbL
> >>>>>> ( ) I do not release my data under ODbL
> >>>>>> ( ) I consider all my data PD anyway and don't claim database
> >>>>>> protection so do whatever you want
> >>>> 
> >>>> However, you believe that even this would overtax the average community
> >>>> member.
> >>> 
> >>> I strongly agree with Frederik on this one.
> >>> 
> >>> In my opinion - and you may say that the Potlatch author is the last  
> >>> person anyone should be asking about usability ;) - offering the third  
> >>> option is a _big_ win for simplicity.
> >>> 
> >>> Never mind the legal arguments; never mind GPL vs BSD; never mind  
> >>> 49.9% or 90% or CC0 or any of that. In most mappers' eyes, the three  
> >>> choices above mean:
> >>> 
> >>>   [ ] Yes
> >>>   [ ] No
> >>>   [ ] Yes and please don't bother me again
> >>> 
> >>> We tend to forget, here and on legal-talk, that by definition we are  
> >>> the people who care about this deeply. Most people don't. Most people  
> >>> just want to go mapping.
> >>> 
> >>> Offering a PD option means "Whatever. I trust you guys. I just like  
> >>> mapping. I really don't want to be bothered by any more e-mails about  
> >>> relicensing."
> >> 
> >> That's what *you* think it means. I think it means "Whatever, be like FreeBSD and let's die as quickly as possible".
> >> 
> >> Yours &c.
> >> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I think that *maybe" what he thinks could be shared by _many_ people...
> > until you make a survey how can you know the answer ??
> 
> I think that *maybe* what I think could be shared by _many_ people....
> 
That was obvious :)


> until you let the LWG actually do something, like I don't know... do the vote on the license maybe? Then how can I know the answer??
> 
don't you think that could be usefull to have a license on which there
is common agreement *before* to vote ??

> > BTW: which is your def. of "dead" ? :P
> 
> Dead as in FreeBSD. Alive as in Linux.
> 
Thence FreeBSD has never been alive :)


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