[Osmf-talk] CC BY SA 2.0 and backup plan
Matt Amos
matt at asklater.com
Sat Dec 5 19:07:03 UTC 2009
80n wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Matt Amos <matt at asklater.com
> <mailto:matt at asklater.com>> wrote:
> you probably *can* publish a map based on a collective database of
> CC BY-SA data and ODbL data, and the produced work will be CC BY-SA
> licensed.
>
> i think you *can* publish a map based on a collective database of CC
> BY-SA data and a derivative of ODbL data, and the produced work will
> be CC BY-SA licensed and the whole dump, or diff, of the derivative
> ODbL data must be available.
>
> i think you *can* publish a map based on a collective database of CC
> BY-SA derivative data and a derivative of ODbL data as long as the
> derivative doesn't "represent, in terms of obtaining, verification
> or presentation, significant investment", and the produced work is
> CC BY-SA, and the diff/dump of the ODbL data is made available.
>
> I'm still thinking this through but how would you create the ODbL
> derivative database? You'd have to do it without any recourse to the CC
> BY-SA data and I don't see how that would be possible.
the clearest example is if you create it with no recourse to the CC
BY-SA data. for example, if you run osm2pgsql to create the two
independent databases, you can generate (CC BY-SA) tiles from mapnik and
distribute them. i don't see any license conflict here.
a less clear example is if the modification doesn't "represent, in terms
of obtaining, verification or presentation, significant investment". for
example, if i have two apidb format databases and take the list of
elements in the ODbL database and delete them from the CC BY-SA database
then (it's my understanding that) i can still render CC BY-SA tiles from
the resulting collective database. and, since CC BY-SA doesn't require
that i release the database, i don't have anything else to release.
it gets even murkier if i do it the other way around, but if the list of
elements in the CC BY-SA database doesn't "represent ... significant
investment" then i think it's likely i can delete them from the ODbL
database and only release that list. again, the tiles produced from the
resulting collective database would be CC BY-SA.
cheers,
matt
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