[Osmf-talk] ArcGIS Online & OSM

[Andrew Turner]

On May 5, 2010, at 9:52 PM, "James A. T. Rice" <james_r-osmmem at jump.org.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 5 May 2010, Kate Chapman wrote:
> 
>> Unfortunately here is an example from Todd Huffman who does work in
>> the field in Afghanistan, I suspect related to that one application:
> 
>>>>> "Access blocked We suspect this client downloading maps in 
>>>>> unauthorised manner. Please ask at irc.openstreetmaps.org"  And then 
>>>>> redirected to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_Abuse
> 
> Can I suggest a replacement of "unauthorised" with "abusive", otherwise it 
> sounds like OSM being haughty, rather than actually there being a problem 
> with overloading the servers.
> 
> IRC isn't really the most useful resource to send people to, and redirects 
> probably won't work in most clients - perhaps setting up a 
> policy.openstreetmap.org website and giving that in the tile message 
> instead would be better?
> 

Keep in mind the people viewing these messages are users, not developers. Their experience is "OSM isn't reliable." 

If there is still a message, it should be along the lines of "This application is using OpenStreetMap inappropriately. Please contact them about the issue."

Andrew

> 
> As a way of not cutting clients off completely, yet not adversely 
> affecting service for other users, perhaps a technical solution of only 
> serving tiles available in cache immediately to particular user-agents, 
> and then having a set of per user-agent queues for things not in cache 
> would be appropriate?
> 
> 
> You could always do a hybrid solution of the above two in order to get the 
> message out but not potentially cut users off - serve the tile in a slow 
> queue, and watermark it too with a message about abuse...
> 
> 
> Cheers
> James
> 
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