[Osmf-talk] design

Hugo Holscher hugoholscher at gmail.com
Sat Dec 17 11:24:52 UTC 2011

by-and-large I think Gert is right. What I do miss most  is that at least 
half of the focus should be on users. To me users are people who want to 
"use" the OSM data. They want to print a map, download a GPS version and 
want probably things I can't even imagine now. I think the focus on the 
first page should be on that. In addition a single point where you find "I 
want to contribute". That will lead to a page which Richard et. al. have so 
skillfully build.

I realise that this is quite a deviation from what the direction has been, 
but for long term survival a "customer base" will be a critical success 


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From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 11:33 AM
To: Richard Fairhurst ; osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Osmf-talk] design

I like the:

- getting started
- latest project (should me moderated of course)
- Showcase
- the map

Don’t like:

The homepage does not show  why OSM is free (within CC-BY-SA restrictions),
and doesn't mention you this project allows you to  participate and create 
"your map"
with our data. (this is our distinction to other maps)

The support us (too early here: change to "what can we do for you" or 
something similar)
The second tab (orange): "creates a message box: "please zoom in first": 
The third tab:  this is not about history of the project, but history of 
data : too techy for new users

I suggest the 2nd and 3rd tab should focus on information, and may link 
trough to what its now
We could design an alternative homepage url for  "members"  that want to 
start faster (cookie based?)



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Van: Richard Fairhurst [mailto:richard at systemeD.net]
Verzonden: Saturday, December 17, 2011 1:14 AM
Aan: osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [Osmf-talk] design

Hi all,

Heh, so I should probably explain what a few of us have been working on.

At the London Hack Weekend we started work on a prototype for the 'short
cycle' site redesign. You can see a running version at
http://redesign.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ and get the code from my
github (https://github.com/systemed/openstreetmap-website/tree/redesign).

The overall aim is to make the site more approachable for new users via
a simpler, more contemporary look. It's a work-in-progress: some stuff
is experimental and may not stay (not sure yet about the tint bar at the
bottom... but you have to try these things!), but you get the general
idea. A few points to highlight:

*Simpler and more direct*

The editable nature of OSM is in prime position with just three large
tabs. Lesser used functionality has been moved into a "Tools" menu and a
"Community" disclosure list.

*Content-rich RH column*

Emphasises two points:
- Applications of OSM data (the "OpenStreetMap Inside" concept from the F2F)
- Mapping projects (to reinforce the message "we want /you/ to contribute)

This follows current design practice that in the absence of hierarchical
nav, main content is left-aligned, supplementary content right-aligned.

*Search box in standard location *(top right)

This is designed to expand (via a link) into
/    From: [_______]   To: [_______]   By: [ car|foot|bike ]
when the routing backend is ready.

*Consistent design language*

Developing the 'OpenStreetMap as a brand' concept we're starting to
discuss in CWG. The colours are keyed around the green of the OSM logo,
which with the dark red and yellow equates to OSM's
"trunk/primary/secondary" cartography. The logo and typography is
consistent with that on help.osm.org and trac.osm.org (and can be rolled
out further). We anticipate reskinning Potlatch 2 to match the design


*The design is strongly influenced by that of openstreetmap.ru. Features
used by more experienced mappers have been retained, but moved out of
the way of newcomers.

Despite the extra content, we have managed to retain the map at 90% of
its current size (thanks to the full-bleed design), and the area
available in edit mode is actually greater.

*Wording and layout changes

*"History" (sounds passive) has become "Activity" (emphasises the active
nature of the data - i.e. find out what other mappers are doing right
now). On the login screen, "sign up" has been moved above "log in" to
maximise signups from new users, and the buttons moved to the LH margin
to make them more obvious. The copyright link is in the standard place
on the bottom RH of the map. And so on.

Code so far is by Tom, Matt and me. We're excited about it and hope
you'll like it.


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